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-1 Sugestions on winstrol + anavar cycle

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Ok im 35 years old weight 260 height 5'11 bodyfat not sure but im big but bodyfat is high too,
ive been researching and reading and i decided to run winstrol + anavar cycle what im looking for is cut and definition but i dont want to shrink too much. i would ad something else but im very scared of the compounds that can cause gyno since my nipples are a lil puffy since im a kid, is not that bad but idk if for that reason ill be more vulnerable to gyno.
how good are those 2 togetrher ? there is a way to throw something in on that cycle like equipoise or deca for strenght without having to use test to keep my test levels high?
what doses shpuld i use or what else to ad to get the best out of that cycle.
again my goals are cut primary and strenght if posible. Any suggestions are apreciated thank you.

SGrinder's picture

Im already dieting and thanks to everyones sugestions i changed my mind on the win + var cycle. Im gonna continue dieting and exercising and when im ready ill have blood test done to see where are my test levels and go from there with, maybe a simple testosterone cycle but no rush right now on that after some of the recomendations. Thanks for the reply. Smile

PeeledSouthWest's picture

Winstrol's benefit in terms of using is as a 'cutter' is non-existen unless your already decently lean, I'd say 12% being the MAX.

Since your prone to gyno or even already have pre-existing gyno, using an AI on cycle is going to be a must for you, preferably arimidex. Research arimidex usage and proper dosage and estrogen related sides (including gyno), shouldn't be a problem.

Go with testosterone by itself, with your age I would go with 750mg a week for anabolic properties. 12-15 weeks. Get your cardio and diet in check, with dropping fat from those two in conjunction with increasing muscle mass, you should drastically drop bodyfat and begin 'recomping'

SGrinder's picture

i will research about arimidex and looking already information on the diferent types of test and dosage Smile ty

Roid Noid's picture

Armidex is a good AI (aromatize inhibitor) but look for a stronger one!

fast48's picture

First cycle run is simply 500mgs/week. But where's your bf levels at?

SGrinder's picture

5'11 , 265 pounds bf 23% but have big constitution because i use to workout before, after 3 years out i started again 2 months ago. i can say most of the fat is on the belly lol. im not in a rush to start juicing like i say ill wait till the time is right and im ready for it. Smile

fast48's picture

NICE! I lost a point for posting 500 as FIRST cycle. The guys NOT 40! Even the guys over 40 on trt have a first cycle of 500mgs/wk. As posted and backed by all the gurus on here. No worries.....

PeeledSouthWest's picture

Just remember one thing. The media exaggerates and creates this image of steroids as being this dangerous compound that alters the body like magic - it's completely FALSE. Without training hard and proper diet, steroids do absolutely nothing positive, while all the risks and side effects will still be present. If you take $5,000 worth of pharmacy grade steroids and have an average diet and hit the gym 2-3 days a week, half assed, you will actually grow FAR LESS than someone 100% natural that is going hard. I've seen guys expect miracles from AAS and spend all sorts of insane amount of money on top oversea's brands, all to gain nothing except gyno and acne because their diet was junk and training was average.

Your on the right track so far. Keep reading, keep asking questions. Lock in your diet and macros and go hard in the gym until you feel your starting to plateau, then take the plunge to the world of AAS.

SGrinder's picture

Im with you ive seen that a lot, people juicing expecting too much but their diet sucks or they dont train well. You see em and you really cant tell theire juicing cause theyre doing it wrong so their results are decimated. then they blame everything but themselves. I want to know im ready, have the time to religiously go 5 days a week at least to train, and the funds for extra clean diet. About training i know a lot i read and always try to learn new stuff. years ago i started teenager at the weight of 160 and in about 3 years i hit the 195 just with diet, rest and proper training + good supplementation. Everything changes , cant compare the metabolism at 35 with the metabolism at 17 or 18 y o, so that means more time in the cardio machines to reach my goals Smile

fast48's picture

X2 !!

SGrinder's picture

not trying to fix anything with roids bro, ive been training since im a teen on and off, due to an accident i couldnt workout for the last 3 years, im not 265 round barel lol i have big guns and big muscles but definetly im overweight, im doing 30 min cardio 4 days a week. eating very clean, low carb, low fat only supplementing with whey protein isolate with water i take it and of course when i do a cycle the dieting gets even more strict. ty for the replies Smile Also was talking bout injectable winny + oral var

Roid Noid's picture

well this sounds much better then the picture I was getting but my comment still stands, winstrol wont be seen unless your BF% is at 11/12% or lower, its useless for your goals, anavar is a mild compound that will barely been seen as well, probably the most you will get out of it is leg pumps when you do cardio...If your gonna do anything then its test! thats what you need to research, start researching gyno and how to prevent it and when you got something we can work with come back and post up. You need to have something on your own that says you spent some time researching, then we will help you!

SGrinder's picture

will do, thank you for the reply Smile

Roid Noid's picture

NO NO and NO! this is horrible! you are thinking that roids are gonna fix everything and they wont. as a matter of honest fact what your looking for you wont find by running any of those compounds, the answer is DIET and CARDIO!...We dont do oral only cycles either, start researching and come up with something better, next time post up what you got going for your diet as well, it sounds like you might need to dial that in and need some help.

fast48's picture

No pills only cycles. Will make winkie not work etc. Clean food choices and lots of cardio. High bf makes steroid cycles hazardous for high blood pressure, hypertension, strokes, heart issues etc etc etc