-1 pct after 12 weeks of test e
question about pct
first cycle
week
1-12 test e 500/week
4-12 hcg 500/week
i didnt took any ai during cycle.
was a little back acne but not to much that's why i didn't take it...
pct start week 14 i taking nolvadex only 4 days now 40mg/day
im planing to do pct only with nolva 40/40/20/20
i also have clomid but i dont want to play with sides like
eyes problem and emotional bls.....
taking nolva 4 days now 40mg/day and feel like shit...
testicles shrinkage present and also hearts sometimes.
my question. considering this fact that i only do test e 500mg/week +hcg during cycle is the nolvadex going to be enough for me to restart my system ?
as i said before i dont really want to use clomid...
i read a lot about sides and fucking scary....
also have 6000ui hcg on hand but im not really sure if i can take it now
hcg suppressive that's why i discontinued after cycle...
thx guys
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zewiClomid-Clomiphene works by blocking estrogen at the pituitary. The pituitary sees less estrogen, and makes more LH. More LH means that the Leydig cells in the testis make more testosterone.
HCG—HCG for men that have hypothalamic or pituitary malfunction, can take HCG to increase testis size so they are at their peak and producing test.
Nolvadex- increases in the serum levels of LH, FSH,also helps block estrogen.
Try 50mg's, it works too if you are weary of the sides. Honestly, I guess the sides are all dependent on the user as everyone is different...Me, I was maybe teary-eyed here and there, and I had some acne on my shoulders.
Actually this is why you should take clomid...see, clomiphene works by blocking estrogen at the pituitary. The pituitary sees less estrogen, and makes more luteinizing hormone(LH), and more of that means the Leydig cells in your testis make more testosterone. Nolvadex is more for estrogen rebound that would cause post-cycle gyno, and works well in conjunction with clomid. Clomid for your boys, and nolva for NO boobs.
HCG use in PCT isn't really recommended or what it is for. HCG is more for on cycle as oppposed to post-cycle therapy. You might recover well without clomid, but I recommend you at least try it first...and then decide if you want to keep taking it.
yeah that's right i just couldn't think clear for a second.
read a lot off bullshit online....
tomorrow morning start taking clomid 50/days 2 weeks then drop it to 25/d other 2 weeks
hopefully i will not gonna turn into a blind 11 years old crying girl lol
thx for your help bro!!!
Good info bro!
There is evidence that HCG increases the amount of LH receptors. Leydig cells do produce and release testosterone in the presence of testosterone but they have to be able to bind to a receptor. If more LH is able to bind this will provide for a quicker release in testosterone. So it makes sense that an HCG blast during PCT would only increase the chances of a quicker recovery to natural T levels
Hcg has high conversion to estro. But ya probably already know that. And clomid/nolva is a stack because together they work great. One blocks estro one fires up your balls. But ya knew that too.
Since i'm lost here....whats your question again? Is this the forum where someone posts a question and then argues with all answers? Oh OUR BAD.....
I wasnt arguing with anything and im not claiming to know everything...the original questions was that he said that he had 6,000ui hcg left and asked if it would help during pct. since super said hcg wouldnt be used during pct i was just saying that there are some studies that say it would be beneficial...ill leave it alone, wasnt trying to piss anyone off, my fault.
Clomid Sparks lh too without converting. We can only fill in the missing links to help.
very good, i wasnt saying dont use clomid and nolva. i just suggested the theory of using hcg during pct and definitely didnt mean to make the comment in an antagonistic manor
PNo worries. Sorry to bark but there's guys on here always asking then arguing. You didn't use an ai while on hcg during cycle so your fortunate IMO that you didn't have bad issues. Everything has it's job during a cycle. Test builds muscle and converts to estro. Hcg keeps balls plump but converts as well. Ai blocks so you get better growth and no new boobies. And proper pct is to get your system up before you're all done.
You're 100% correct. For clarification, I wasn't the one who didn't run an ai. I was just commenting on the post...I usually let more experienced members likeyourself and super answer but I read the hcg info in dr scallys pct protocol and a couple of medical journal abstracts so I figured I'd pass the info along, sorry for the confusion
Sorry as well. Hope you have a great day
should have read presence of LH...my bad
well i did blood test before and during test e but i didnt do now... i wanted to do after i finis pct
I am no expert in this area but did do some reading that states as the testes start producing testosterone again there may be some slight pain. The boys are nothing to mess with though. If I were in your shoes I would see a doc.
What do your estro levels look like?
What do your estro levels look like?
Did you buy the Nolva from a research company on here?
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