Help me here with my thinking...
I am 50. Been on TRT (Axiron gel) for 7 months now. I had low T (194) and started with standard dose. Then switched to double dose (120 mg/day).Libido and energy were decent.
Well two weeks ago I got switched over to injections (200mg Test Cyp). I had one injection of it but have started my own therapy too. I got some goodies (3 bottle Test E 250 and a couple of bottles Test Prop. )
I stopped using the Axiron gel and started with Test E once a week and to kick things off I have been doing 100mg of Test Prop EOD.
So...in total I have done:
Week 1 - 200mg Test Cyp from doctor
Week 2 - 250 Tst E (UGL) and 100mg TEst Prop EOD
Week 3 - 250 Test E - one Test Prop.
The thing is...my libido has dropped since stopping the gel. I figured the Test Prop would help me keep my levels up while the longer esters (E/C) take time to come in. Not that Libido is everything but I kind of comparing it when on the Gel to now.
What am I missing here?
Thanks in advance.
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I did up my Adex dose to .5mg ed. I thought I was starting to get libido/energy back but now I kind of feel not...back to no libido low energy.
Anyway...should I up the AI dose more? Maybe try to find out my bounderies(increase dosage to find the point where I have low estrogen symptoms)
Well guys, I took the advice to increase my AI (Adex) to see if that would help and so far I can report that I do feel a change. Not so lethargic and libido coming back.
I am doing .5mg Adex ED (split .25mg morning/evening). I will continue this for a while to see if I need to back off or stay the same.
Thanks for driving the point home..
Sorry guys...I didn't get to properly finish that post...got interupted.
I have liquid Adex..taking .25 eod.
Yeah...I stopped the gel the day I got the first doctor injection. Then my new gear came in the next week so I started the prop (planned to run 3-4 weeks) and started the Test E.
So I pinned prop (100mg) on this past M-W-F-Sun. Was thinking that the prop s/b hitting hard by now.Maybe another day or so?
Energy levels up? Ya...prop kicks in fast. Too high of estro or too low causes issues. Low can be squeaky dry joints etc. Wondering if prop is good brand?
Thats just it...I have been at the beach all week and been very sluggish , no real energy (and low libido). But admittingly I did not take the Adex consistently during this time.
Maybe I need to stay disciplined with it for a week and see how it goes.
(s/b be good Prop..Perses gear)
Perses is good rated. Low libido can be also too low estro. Along with night fever etc. forums have info on low/high estro.. Adex is very strong so finding spot that works is key. You're not doing a ton of test so it can be running estrotoo low as well. With trt you have to be dilligent. Last week on beach vacation with no adex but still doing prop suggested it's high estro.. So keep trying .25eod to avoid fluctuations. If you're joints get dry/creaky it is running low estro and then every third day maybe better. Being consistant and take notes if possible to keep regulated. Top right of this site is google search and it'll search just this site. Lug in high estro and low estro symptoms as helper.
Thanks fast...yeah...I f'dup and did not bring the Adex to the beach.
I'm learning.using the heck out of the search button.:)
It happens. Low blah energy...no libido is high estro.. Adex is fast and good. This is new for ya so finding the happy spot will keep you busy for a bit. Everyones body is different so the basics gets you started. You plan will be 250/week after the enanthate kicks in?
Yeah....I am planning to run the enanthate 250/week but will plan some "blasts" to get prepared for a race. Actually I am trying to get my doc to do their shots a least every two weeks bu they do 200mg of Cyp. So I need to work my Enthanate around that.(or is it a bad idea to run two different esters?)
But you are right, I am kind of just dialing stuff in right now. and being new at it, a few mistakes here and there.
Fvtec just posted solid advice!
And two Esters just work on release time. Prop is fast but lasts 48hrs....enanthate is about a day shorter than cyp. Your overall full dose over a week is what will get your trt dose. Some guys here post they feel great at 125Mg toal for week...others feel better at 200.
It also will help you to get your weekly adjusted before a blast. So you don't come off a blast and feel crappy.
Good stuff guys..
Fvtec...Right now I go into the office to get the Cyp shot. Just started a couple of weeks ago.
fast your right....I dont plan to blast until I am comfortable with my regular weekly runs.
How do guys know that say 200/week is just right. Did they try 250 and it not agree with them? I mean, what am I looking for as far as my dose being too high? I know if it is too low I wont feel as good but what is the syptom on the other end?
I recommend getting some aromasin or letrozole
Your estrogen is probably getting high. What AI do you take?
So when did you stop the gel? If uou stopped like week prior to doctors cyp....cyp takes long time to kick in. Prop should have your test fairly high. So wondering...using anti estrogen in there?