HGH question for tread-m or anyone else who can help me out?
I've been doing 2IU ED/week then switching it 4IU EOD. Throughout my research I've found that your body has an axis of balance for hormones. What i've heard Tread talk about alot is that you have to take testosterone in conjunction with hgh(higher doses 3IU and above)or your body will just discard excess hgh it cant use. Thus, you have to have a high enough testosterone to balance a high dose of hgh. I want to bump my hgh dose up but my thing is this, Can i substitute test for something like anavar or masteron, turnabol etc..I dont want to really take straight up testosterone..Anyone that can help me clear this up would be much appreciated..also If anyone can find an article or research about this..i'd like to read it..also here's my stats- 22yr old, 5"11, 160 lbs, 10% bf, lifting for about 3 yrs
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juiceinatorYou're doing something wrong. I'm am the epitome of an ectomorph and I went from 125-165 my first year lifting. After one hear I had striations in my pecs. At your age and lifting for 2.5 years completely natural I was 180 at <10bf.
southernmuscle615alright.. yea I get why you need to take test now, that would in fact do more harm than good..glad you told me that.... even though ive seen people do it..i guess they felt like shit on that cycle..
Yea i hear what your saying..for me though I have a small frame and small joints, definitely a hard gainer..at the end of my bulk i was like 177..started cutting late april went down to like 160, im like 10 maybe 9@ bf..i just got these genetics that like to store alot of visceral fat..I know i should probably stay natty another year or so..but damn i wanna start competing sometime lol ehh maybe one day
I was a natural hardgainer at 20. Decided bantamweights for first competition. Mr America saw my lifts and dedication.....changed my diet to over 6000cals. Up 20 lbs in 6 Weeks on just food.
Teamwork bro. Everyone has good knowledge to share.
Hope he listens. Ya gotta Max out first...change diet n routine...Max out again. Try everything before any additives. One reason to wait til over 25.
You're too young to screw up your body. Your naturat hormones right now should be boosting you in the gym . Check your fiet and gym routine first
southernmuscle615alright,well what about this... and I dont want to sound ignorant because I understand what your saying...but what if I ran 500-600mg/wk with primo as a base then an AI, maybe some HCG then end it with the clomid/nolva PCT..is that just a waist of time?could it be beneficial while running the hgh and also running igf-1
southernmuscle615alright I see, well let me ask you guys this then..what would be the best cycle and pct where I could retain my natty testosterone production, thats my main thing, and dealing with gyno and keeping my gains, its definitley a process..but im in it to win it at the same time..but yea I probably need to do more digging..much appreciated
Anyone can use HGH, my brother was on it since 12 yrs old due to a growth deficiency, HGH doesn't need PCT or anything as long as u take responsible doses u can be whatever age.
What do u mean u don't want to take straight up test? Have u ever taken test? Its awesome bro and in conjunction with HGH u will grow huge
Edit- jut realized ur 22, no biggie just be prepared bro get ALL ur PCT and ancillaries beforehand if u ever decide to take test, technically your too young but if I said don't do it I'd be a hypocrite cuz I took it at 18 like a retard....I turned out ok tho lol
But at 5-11 & 160.......he could eat n train to 200 before he hits anything.
southernmuscle615lol naw ive never taken it..my things always been peptides..love peptides..but when i do jump on AAS better belive im getting all my PCT in order first..im not trying to screw myself up, im playing it extra safe...im not one of those guys trying to gain 30lbs in 2 months..shits crazy!
Peptides and hgh still changes everything that's "natty" in your system. So your logic is way off. Same thing as doing coke....but hey---it's not hetoine right?!
southernmuscle615lol yea well like i said ive been going about it the safest way i can, ive been doin fairley low doses a 2iu ed, and switching 4iu eod..and keeping track of my cycle..when im done, my natty hgh levels should go back to homeostasis pretty quick..I would jump on AAS, i would do anything just about to put me over the top to be the best, but I actually listen to vet users and test is a big deal IMO more important than even HGH, definitley taking into acoount what your saying.
1jakd_hipyYou do realize all steroids are a modified version of testosterone. In my opinion the effects from HGH without using steroids wouldn't be worth the cost