+ 2 Bust that kids ass!
My god guys my fiance has this child...This deamon...this complete shithead that is 100% out of control. He has no respect for other adults or children or anyone for that matter. He kicks and hits and screams bloody murder if you dont let him watch spongebob. He tells her he hates her. This shit is only 4 years old and he needs in my opinion a good old fashioned beating. This weekend i was watching the nba playoffs and this kid starts in with i wanna watch spongebob. I tell him no problem, just wait 20 more minutes for this game to end and the tv is yours. He starts in on the screaming. My fiance grabs him by the arm and says, no, calm down and wait a minute. He hits her with his free arm and screams get away from me! Here i am sittin over here all full of test prop gettin ready to get myself the first slot on the nightly news..lol. Its so hard to just sit back and watch him own her. She spanks him on his ass with her hand but its not enough for this kid. Hes hell on wheels. So he continues to kick and scream and she just sighs and says i give up and plops down on the couch. I lost it : ) I said how about you give the kid what he needs and deserves and REALLY tear his ass up because obviously what you are doing isnt working. What does she say? "Im not suprised to hear you say that considering you're on steroids" What are your thoughts on a kid like this and what the best thing is to do? If he was my kid, i know for a fact, hed act like that one time and it would be the last because i would wear his punk ass out. Am i so wrong for recommending this? What do you guys think?
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sgtstedanko: ( the pussification of america : (
I know sometimes my dog responds better to toys, othertimes food, and sometimes play.
An ass whoopin is nothing compared to mental anguish.
Luckily to cause mental anguish to a child is quite easy. Put him in time-out for 15-45 minutes at a time. Its equivelant to putting an adult behind bars for a 1 -3 year stint.
Nourishment of positive qualities is always better. They will eventually outshine his juvenile ways. Its sort of like when I take my dog for a jog and play with her -the rest of the day she obeys my every command.
sgtstedankoGave me an idea, brother. Dog shock collars for the boy. Everytime the little shit acts up, shock the shit out of him! My dogs have them, & yes I've tried them on myself. Trust me, he would change his ways quickly. Best would be the, "i never touched him defense"
Let the kid know that his dad isnt doesnt sleep with his mom anymore but you do!, so that means you own his ass since you drill his mothers! hahaha! then pick up a weight that is the same size as him and toss it as hard as you could and let him know that their will be consequences! hahahahhahahaha! kids these days dont have a fucking clue what it is to get a real beating. IMO they all need just 1 and they will wise up after that. If they threaten to call DCF you tell them to enjoy living in a foster home where no one loves you! lol sorry I am not really so cold hearted just wanted to join in on the venting session lol
hog tie his ass and throw him in the closet...lol
Buy a second tv.
awe fuck... someone always has to throw some of that common sense around??? ruined the whole "venting the violence" theme I had going, crap. Lucky bastard, acts up and now he's getting a new TV. I thought I was gonna see some good old child beating going on??
TxBigBoylmfao! best answer yet!
WTF only on FB-Roids. I agree w pelon too, your relationship with him has a lot to do with it. If you and him aint close then I guess you back up and take his crap or move on cause its only gonna get worse, I have step kids and alomost every fight I have with my wife is over them spoiled little bastards- cause she enables them. But if you are cool with the little guy then yea do what you gotta do. I explain very clearly every ass whoopin I hand out so they understand Im not a bad guy, they broke the rules. so give him a spongebob schedule and you stick to it so he knows its his time.
Hitting children solves nothing. The child has been w/o a father, he may have witnessed rows. He needs loving, & to be shown that being aggresion achieves nothing. I think that you'll be thinking something like: 'well you havn't seen this kid, & its easy for you to say love him' It must be an awful situation, for all three of you. Try finding something he likes doing & do it together. Praise him, tell him he's great, & loved. It will not be easy, & it will not happen quickly. He sounds quite unhappy. Good luck.
After having a male around should help a lot. seems he has a lot of energy. wrestling around with him playing outside. explaining he can act like that when she is not around will help. not a gown man as whooping. Don't do that because like someone else said she.enables him. kids men and women always walk over peoplebthey know they can. sad that way but many people are pussies like that. i say fussy because a grown man should be confident and responsible enough to do shit on their own to not want to use people to get ahead like a crab. Im getting off topic. be there for him, take control! be responsible
In my opinion if she protects and enables him then u might as well hang it up cause he/she will never change. No such thing as bad kids... just bad parenting.
I agree, but bad parents do in fact make bad kids, and this is at t his point a bad kids until the parents fix themselves the kid will suffer.
AnonRight now the spanking is a trade off for what he wants.. the "payment" is worth it.. he gets attention and eventually he gets sponge bob.. .. it's gonna be hard but quite honestly this behavior has "worked" for him so I would ignore him turn my back and walk out the room .. I would take sponge bob and whatever else he likes and use it to get good behavior.. She HAS to be consistent and do exactly what she says she is gonna do because I bet she gives in .. and therefore she has reinforced for him that bad behavior pays off.. .. beating him at this point won't do a damn thing and obviously neither will a good spanking it's gone way to far to "Scare" him into good behavior.
I KNEW YOU WOULD SAY EXACTLY THIS!!!!! shaking my fist at the air hoping somehow, someway grrll sees it
I have several little ones and I will give you my opinion. Grrrl is right it has gone to far and its going to be hard to fix without some real discipline you your own. CONTRARY to what grrrl has said, I SAY give that real ass whoopin just to get the ball rolling and let him know you are now fed up. consequences have to be severe at this point. Take everything from him and at his very next tantrum, I mean every thing and let him know he gets nothing until he acts right and let him earn his stuff back. Every time he act up, not just normal kids stuff but when he gets to acting this little fool you described take all his shit and put him in his room to throw that tantrum alone. your girl is gonna have to support this 100%. If its your house you make the rules, if its her house you need to find another woman. Teach him first and formost to respect her and you. This new day and age has really ruined kids and if someone dont stop this kid now he will end up in prison or juvi real quick, dont forget to start with that reall ass whoopin though cause that will tell him its fianlly serious when he sees all that follows. if the ass whoopin dont hurt it dont mean shit and thats what he learned. make it mean something.
AnonI agree with everything except the ass whipping piece.. it won't work as he has no respect for physical punishment .. and without the mother's support it will completely back fire...
Well, may be so but i would still throw it in for my personal benefit cause I do believe they help. I have no respect for little spanks on the butt either but I am a grown man and fight in a cage and have a bunch of guys beat up on me daily and I am still scared of a real asswhoopin so again I think he needs it as a starting point so the kid understands that when the punishment fits the crime it can and will be administered. so hopefully from then on the kid will know their is a scale and degree of punishment he could earn by bad decisions. He's 4, you can make it sound feel and look a lot worse than it is and that more than anything is what gets the attention.
BostonHow do you turn your back when he runs at you throwing punches??
Anonkeep moving.. or if you have to put him in his room.. he is small right? You can't be emotional about this or he WINS.. my son told me once he didn't love me anymore right after I told him no .. I responded with thats ok honey I still love you and I must be doing my job right.. very matter of fact .. this is business not about love and hugs and kisses and shit.. you can't get angry or he has WON.. you might have to hold him in a bear hug til he calms down.. you might have to do it everyday for a week or two but when he stops getting reinforced for it he will stop.. when his world becomes consistent he will stop.. when punishments (and i use that word very losely) fit the crime and are followed through with .. he will stop..
you wouldn't give your dog a treat for bad behaviors would you? (ok bad example some people do) .. but you get the point..
I think its fine to discipline by spanking. Just dont take it overboard. What would work better is to punish him by taking away things he likes. Like his nintendo, ps, or tv.
i was in the same situation , if your into your girl that much, you just gotta suck it up and make it work
i was in the same situation , if your into your girl that much, you just gotta suck it up and make it work
56tooI didnt even look to see how old u r. I will tell you this your remedy of beating the shit out of the kid will only make things worse. IMHO the problem is not with the kid its with your gf. Sorry if that doesnt sit well with you but it is what it is my man
BostonI didnt say beat the shit out of the kid bro. Id never do that. But as i mention earlier, he gets a soft hand on the butt and thats it. I think its time to crank it up a notch.
Hitting children only makes them angry and grow up to think its okay to hit. Fighting fire with fire doesn't work here. Get the child interested in something. Take him outside. Sounds like he needs a strong male role model , not yelled and screamed at. Deffinetly doesn't need a damn television. At four he should be playing soccer throwing the ball something besides a damn TV. I'd round up the fam load them in the car and do something together fuck the playoffs family is more important
you have two scenarios here and each with separate conclusions. Say you discipline the kid, you feel awesome, results are fast and the kid is quiet for the time being. But the deeper issue of why the kid is angry get buried for example hes pissed about the parents separation. eventually the child builds resentment for you and the mother and so on the mother builds resentment toward you ending the relationship in the long run. (happens every time). Or the second scenario you use your head without letting the mother know you swoop in and become the hero. you have patience with the child, talk to him find out the issues and work them out. child becomes calmer and has made a new friend. then starts to listen. you then have a buddy to watch the playoffs and getting bj's by the boat loads from the mom. takes lots of work but the juice is worth the squeeze.
A good ol' fashion ass whoopen will fix this kid right up and any kind of behavior or disorder he might have. I was a pretty bad kid myself raised by my grandma. She whooped my ass everytime she needed to (old school style) and now i thank her everyday for that. Also sounds like your fiancee needs a spanking for bringing your of aas up LOL !!
BostonI know for certain that this kid doesnt have anything mentally wrong. His mother lets him run wild and now its gotten so bad that she cant fix it. He needs a powerful whoopin and nothing more.
I agree bro and the fact that she brings up you using aas clearly explains the kid's behavior. There's No necessary for her to be bringing that up !!
Thats when you get a kid a little older than him to whoop his ass and afterwards you have the kid tell the little demon that if he doesn't shape up at home then he's gonna get his ass beat everyday
Yeah...If you have been with this girl less than a year, you really have no place disciplining him physically...even though he may need it. My buddy married a girl with a special needs kid that was out of control. Within 6 months the kid was a totally different person. Patience will go farther than you can imagine, and hitting him will only make him hate you and his mother go off on you. I have three kids, and what I have learned is that talking to them like they are little people will go farther than anything else. I hit my kids when they need it but try to avoid it as much as possible...one other thing, ALWAYS wait at least 15 minutes after it cools down to spank if you are going to spank. The last thing you or he needs is to hit him while angry. Not only will it teach him to be violent while angry, you may also leave a mark unintentionally. One more thing, I am still married but if I wasn't and my wife's boyfriend ever hit one of my kids...lol.
TxBigBoyLol that last sentence, so true. I couldn't agree more, it would be a very bad day
BostonId never ever touch the boy. I know its not my place. I just want her to! I dont care what you guys say about not being wired right, maybe thats the case but you give a kid a belt or something when they cross the line and i guarantee you that they'll at least think twice about doing it again.
This is so far from the truth bro. Take it to the kid with say a belt and he might stop for the time being but believe me in the long run it will only make his behavior that much more extreme.
your wrong! I thought the same way and I can assure you that if this kid has something going on your gonna have a hell of a time believing that it has to be done another way, I can only laugh because I was you several years ago and it took me a long time to see it the other way. Beating them does nothing they still do the behaviors! Good luck! I can tell your not interested in what I have to say so im done with this thread. Youll have to learn in your own time like I did.
BostonMaybe you're right and i didnt mean to sound like i didnt appreciate your input because i certainly do. If this is the case though then we wont work out. I guess im just in denial of that happening.
I hear you. He may also be testing you as the new man. It might go along way to talk to him calmly about it when he freaks out. When my four year old freaks, I tell her she will get no TV and that instantly stops her freak out 9/10 times. Of course there has to be follow through with the consequence or they will know they own you.
Drop him off in one of Boston's "bad" neighbourhoods by himself for a few hours, then see how "bad" he wants to be... lmao
get him diagnosed he sounds like he has ADHD, ADD, or some form of autism. Its very popular these days so many kids have it and there is lots of information out about it. A simple "does my kid have ADHD" would probably yield the answers on google to point you in the right direction. Alot of times they will have questions that you can ask yourself like, does he do this? etc. Thats the first step brother cause ADHD cant be beat out of no-one, its a thinking disorder, their brain aint wired the same as ours!...also everyone is gonna be offering tid bits of disapline advise but none of it is gonna work for you because his mom is to protective. all this thread is gonna do for you is co-sign what you already feel and make you think your right and next thing you know you and your girl are gonna be going at it, and guess what? your gonna loose!
TxBigBoyThere's is no reason a 4 year old should be on those meds. That's everyone's answer these days, just dope him up. Half the times kids don't even need the meds it's just the parents that can't properly deal with thier child. I agree that those diagnosis are real issues but at 4 years old you run the risk of permanently fucking that kid up.
I never said nothing about meds I said get him diagnosed! if he is then YOU the parent need to start enrolling in parenting classes to learn how to properly deal with this kid. MEDS dont come until much later and only if nothing else works!
TxBigBoyWell shit you don't need a diagnosis to take parenting classes. If you can't handle your child you don't need a medical reason to learn how
no brother its different its a class designed for ADHD! so first you have to get him diagnosed! what if he has autism? then you have to a autsim class! I know it sounds crazy but its true, ive sit through these classes and its like training for a crazy house! everything you learn in there is so damn ass backward from what you know but its necessary to have a good relationship with the child.
TxBigBoyHmm damn everytime I've heard of people taking their kids in the doctors pretty much force the meds. That sounds like a much better option though
Beg Jo Frost to come down and straighten him out lol
exorcism...
Nothing wrong with a bit of discipline. Psychological fear works wonders... just saying lol
NicoTheFrenchLMFAO!!!!!I dont promote child abuse,but if that little SOB needs a butt whoopin well by god you give his ass one.My mother was a single parent and she didnt take any shit from me i talked back=smack in the face, screemed cause i didnt get what i wanted= smack in the face,disrespect=smack in the face...I also got the belt, shoe,wooden spoon..Thats the problem these days parents just arent hard on there kids any more,bro u weren't wrong at all..Next time suggest that she pull down his pants take your belt and try and see how red his butt will get, and thats how he'll learn..see it works like this you beat his ass hard enough that the next he goes ape shit all u have to do is threatin to get the belt and watch and see if he doesnt claim down.My 2 cents
NicoTheFrenchunless this kid is mentally challenge or has some screws loose, then every kid responds to a butt whoopin...its like this u go the gym every day lift 20lbs day in and day out well eventually the weight is gonna get light, well this kid has mastered the pain of a hand whoopin now he needs to work his way up to the belt..Cause u cant take away his toys cause he'll just keep goin crazy till u give em back , u just have to put the fear in him!!dress up like a scary dude (batman,boogy monster etc etc)make sure its not u one of your friends the bigger the better and one nite go in this room and scare the shit outta him, tell him if he doesnt behave youll be back to kill him
!!! lol
BostonI agree 100%. I dont promote child abuse either. But this kid...you have no idea. She wont do anything about it. I have a child, a little boy who is the same age and hes a saint compared to this kid. And its because when he tries to push me or to cross that line there is a price to pay. He knows that. This kid knows that he can do whatever he wants and the worst hes gonna get is a light hand across the butt. I wish i could get thru to her but all she ever says is, hes different, he doesnt respond to whippins. Let me get ahold of his ass one time and we'll see how he responds lol. I have a feeling that hes gonna end our relationship.