posted Mon, 04/23/2012 - 15:12
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Does GH speed up cancer cell growth
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I was wondering if any of you guys know if growth hormone will speed up the growth of cancer.
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Medstudent here (so not really an expert, but I read a lot about neoplasia). I would say that at Supraphysiologic doses, there probably is a significant risk if these doses are carried out during later years. All adults end up having cancer in them by a certain age and various factors usually keep these cancers in check and a overly robust chemical signal to induce proliferation like GH might well tip the balance. However, at moderate doses that mimic hormone levels similar to that seen in hormone levels of someone who is young, there is probably not much of a risk since part of what keeps one from getting cancer is a robust immune system (what is called "surveillance") that would also be strengthened by a normalization of GH levels.
+1 . good knowledge brother. this is the same type of research i have always read/believed in regard to this topic
ive been nervous about that to.
Wanted to bump this thread just in case anyone has any new information on this subject. This is something i worry about if its true bec what if you have caner cells somewhere in your body and you dont know it, the gh will speed up the cancer growth according to this theory.
Check out the link and watch the video.
http://metromd.net/the-truth-about-hgh-and-cancer/
And i think the best proof is children who are prescribed GH for growth problems do not have higher incidents of childhood cancer...
I understand about children, but my point is when u hit your 30s and 40s we have a higher chance that maybe somewhere in our bodies we might have a tumor or something we don't know about, will the gh speed that up if its there?
Got it now , watched the video... Hope he's right
the short answer is: yes it will, when regualr cells discover faults within themselves they initiate what is reffered to as "cell death" or cell suicide. there are 5 parts, 1 of which is limiting growth factors to that region until the cell is dead. Cancer cells, however, are able to trick the brain into contiuing the infusion of growth factors and even blood supply to the canerous cells. If a person were to supplement their own growth hormone it will profoundly affect the cancer cells and provide more nutrients for them to thrive. remember, it hasn't been that long that we have been able to cultivate and grow animal cells. the first success in doing so was "halo" cells (named after the woman they were removed from) and they were cancerous. In short, cancer cells are far better at surviving and thriving than even healthy cells so the growth hormone might boost "cancer fighting cells" but will without question infuse the already stronger cancer cells with more ingrediants to migrate and do damage.
I'm trying to answer this without getting too scientific, hope it helps brother.
Thanks Tread-m for your imput
tread-mThe largest study I ever read on this claimed no. The study showed a very small increase in cancer growth in the drug side of the double blind but a similar increase in the placebo side showing no real change . There are studies going both ways but as you dig deep most of them have agenda, in other words they went in looking to prove an opinion rather than find an answer. The study I refer to had no preconceived notions and simply was looking for fact. One could argue as Joe said below, it increases cell growth. One could also argue it increase cell growth in cancer fighting cells and either helps the situation or is at least a wash. My reading inicates a wash given some studies showed slight increase and some slight decrease. End of the day, the verdict is still out in my opinion but I do think the question has been at least addressed enough to show "not extremely relevent if relevent at all". On a side note, smoking carpet fibers seems to be a bad idea even before the studies have been completed. I know that was your next question ,I've seen this before.
I actually think i seen it on one of the GH websites as a "do not do if" but its been a while so??
problem is what if you have tumors or a cancer you dont know about, i guess it wouold speed it up?
Yea, I think you need to do research cause in what I have read it makes clear that you are not to take GH if you have tumors. It aids in cell growth so if you have tumor cells it could aid their growth. I havn't read it in a while but do a little research if yo are considering GH or someone you know is.