posted Fri, 04/13/2012 - 21:12
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please help- DBol, Test-Cypionate, Injectable winny cycle, with Nolva PCT
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I'm looking for input on how I should best cycle these compounds. I was thinking:
week 1-4 20-40 mg of D-bol
week 1-10 500 mg of Test-c
Week 6-12 200 mg of winny
week 14-16 20-40 mg of Nolva
I'm also thinking about adding Proviron to my PCT at the end to try and level things out. Im 37 and been training for 7 years. I've done several cycles before ranging from just Testosterone to stacking 3 or more compounds together. ie Test-e, deca, dbol. In the past i have been somewhat prone to sides. any advice on this issue will be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Height: 6'2
Weight: 210 lbs
Body fat: unknown, fairly lean
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I wont start without it. I look forward to being able to optimize my cycle without constantly having to worry about raised estrogen levels. Cheers
Thats what I was looking for. Great article, Thanks
Your welcome. Let me know if u need anything brotha. Just do me a favor? Get an AI asap! Ok:-)
Yeah, I was just looking at that site. It gives doses of .25 to .5mg/day, but it doesnt really say if I should use throughout cycle or when sides are noticed. It does however say it can be used as part of PCT, but recommends Nolva/Tamoxafine. Im really appreciating this help though. Most of the guys that ive done steroids with before have no idea what PCT is have ever used one, and thats scary.
Running the Letro with my cycle sounds like a great idea. In the past I havent had anything other than Nolva to use. I did use clomid once before, but it made me feel like shit for some reason. As far as PCT, Ive always bounced right back post cycle only using Nolva. The only problem I have is during the cycle when estrogen levels are at a peak. As soon as I finish my cycle any sides I was having very quickly disapear. So now i have to do a little research on how letro can be combined into my cycle. Any ideas?
http://www.steroid.com/Letrozole.php
http://www.basskilleronline.com/gynoprevention.shtml
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yesh, gyno sides like sore nips are always a factor. But like i said im not sure if they're in my head or not. If you check your nipples for gyno enough they might be sore from that extra attention alone. I've had sore nipples from doing winny only, which im told is pretty much impossible since i dont believe it converts to estrogen. Could it be progesterone with winny? I had that issue i believe when I did some tren-e last year.
From the research I've done on winny it's believed to actually assist with controlling progesterone. Not that I have ever noticed any effect of that nature. I do however have a bunch off winny cycles under my belt and it tightens me up really good. IMO ur gyno issues are from an increase in estrogen. What is your PCT regimen? Just nolva? That could be ur issue right there bud:-( ur shutting down ur endogenous test and hpta and not getting a proper reboot. I would suggest addressing ur estrogen issues immediately with a strong AI like letro. I've never run letro so I'll let somebody else advise u on dosage. If u get the gyno in check u could probably resume with a less aggressive AI like aromasin or a modest dose of adex. I would really think about doing a proper PCT this time around if I were u. Are u a TRT guy? If so ur PCT is just for receptor cleaning like mine. If ur not on trt and have a healthy test level I'd do everything I could to hold on to that brotha.
An eduacted guess would be around 12-15%. I can still see abs when flexed.
What sort of sides are u experiencing brother? Estro related sides? Hi BP? Be as exact as u can.
If gyno is something u experience why no AI? Adex aromasin letro? I don't recommend running two DHT derivative compounds(winny, masteron) together. Could lead to some problems. At ur age I'd be careful with that prostate.
Anoncan you at least guestimate "fairly lean" that means next to nothing
I have had issues in the past when I had to ease off and take nolva for a few days. Sometimes i think it was just paranoia. Do you think i should sustitute the masteron with something i already have listed?
if your having trouble with gyno add some masteron to the mix