I was on HGH for 6 months. I was also doing cycles and I have constant TRT. I felt better in every way on HGH. I was doing 3iu a day. My blood pressure was lower, my energy was better, my sleep was better, my sex drive and capacity was better, I got a better result from my cycles, my body fat went down and I looked more lean especially around the stomach, I recovered from workouts faster, my skin looked better.

I got bone growth pain, and tendon pain in my wrists, and I became more hypoglycemic and got ravenously hungry after a pin. But it was totally worth it.

I have just started Ipamorelin and CJC, which release your own natural growth hormone. So far, I feel it's working good. My lifting is up a lot, and I am getting some other benefits. It's a lot cheaper than buying HGH, and I am not getting the side effects.

I have tried gh and found it to be great.
I had mild sides in the wrists and tingly fingers.
I started on 1ui a day for 14 days then 2ui for 14 etc.
I currently take 5ui a day and have done for 12 months plus.
I have a fantstic sex drive and even have emh (I'm 43!!!) again like when I was a teenager.
I find that my muscles ache less and recover quicker after working out.
I have found that the claims about muscle growth are bunk though, only small growth in strength and size on this stuff.
Hope this helps.
Ta

Hello everybody,

I'm new to the board here...I'm wondering if anyone has tried the gh. I tried some for about a week (I really don't think it was GH either) from a good source. Turns out I had lost my sex drive for that week, was really constipated, frequent urination, dry mouth...all bad. But it felt like I was on some sort of stimulant. I've done my research on 191AA and find it very appealing.

So, any comments on the GH from CDN Online Lab.com?

Thank you everyone!

Us bodybuilders are the cutting edge for everything used for life extentions and rejuvination

In general I know this is long sorry

Andropause or male menopause[1], sometimes colloquially called "man-opause" is a name that has been given to a menopause-like condition in aging men. This relates to the slow but steady reduction of the production of the hormones testosterone and dehydroepiandrosterone in middle-aged men, and the consequences of that reduction,[2] which is associated with a decrease in Leydig cells.[3]

Unlike women, middle-aged men do not experience a complete and permanent physiological shutting down of the reproductive system as a normal event. A steady decline in testosterone levels with age (in both men and women) is well documented.[4]

Unlike "menopause", the word "andropause" is not currently recognized by the World Health Organization and its ICD-10 medical classification. This is likely because "andropause" is a term of convenience describing the stage of life when symptoms of aging appear in men. While the words are sometimes used interchangeably, hypogonadism is a deficiency state in which the hormone testosterone goes below the normal range for even an aging male.

Contents [hide]
1 As a "state"
2 As a disorder
2.1 Proponents
2.2 Opponents
3 Suggestions for treatment
4 See also
5 References
6 External links

[edit] As a "state"The impact of low levels of testosterone has been previously reported. In 1944, Heller and Myers[5] identified symptoms of what they labeled the "male climacteric" including loss of libido and potency, nervousness, depression, impaired memory, the inability to concentrate, fatigue, insomnia, hot flushes, and sweating. Heller and Myers found that their subjects had lower than normal levels of testosterone, and that symptoms decreased dramatically when patients were given replacement doses of testosterone.

Andropause has been observed in association with Alzheimer's disease.[6]

In one study, 98.0% of primary care physicians believed that andropause and osteoporosis risk were related.[7]

The term "symptomatic late onset hypogonadism" (or "SLOH") is sometimes considered to refer to the same condition as the word "andropause".[8][9]

Some researchers prefer the term "androgen deficiency of the aging male" ("ADAM"), to more accurately reflect the fact that the loss of testosterone production is gradual and asymptotic[10] (in contrast to the more abrupt change associated with menopause[citation needed].) The "D" is sometimes given as "decline" instead of "deficiency".[8] In some contexts, the term "partial androgen deficiency in aging males" ("PADAM") is used instead.[11]

[edit] As a disorder[edit] ProponentsProponents of andropause as a distinct condition claim that it is a biological change experienced by men during mid-life, and often compare it to female menopause. Menopause, however, is a complete cessation of reproductive ability caused by the shutting down of the female reproductive system. Andropause is a decline in the male hormone testosterone. This drop in testosterone levels is considered to lead in some cases to loss of energy and concentration, depression, and mood swings. While andropause does not cause a man's reproductive system to stop working altogether, many experience bouts of impotence.

Andropause is usually caused by a very gradual testosterone deficiency and an increase in sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG) that occurs from age 35 onwards. By contrast, women have a more rapid onset of menopause at an average age of 51. Testosterone declines 10% every decade after age 30 (1% per year).

Premature andropause can occur in males who experience excessive female hormone stimulation through workplace exposure to estrogen. Men who work in the pharmaceutical industry, plastics factories, near incinerators, and on farms that use pesticides are high-risk for early andropause.[citation needed]

By their mid-50s, about 30 percent of men experience andropause. About 5 million American men do not produce adequate testosterone, which leads to early andropause. In Australia, about 1 in every 200 men under the age of 60 and about 1 in every 10 men over 60 have low testosterone. Regardless of location, the most likely males to develop early andropause are those with diabetes, hypertension, and genetic disorders that produce hypogonadism, including Klinefelter's, Wilson-Turner, and Androgen insensitivity syndromes.

Some of the current popular interest in the concept of andropause has been fueled by the book Male Menopause, written by Jed Diamond, a lay person.[12] According to Diamond's view, andropause is a change of life in middle-aged men, which has hormonal, physical, psychological, interpersonal, social, sexual, and spiritual aspects. Diamond claims that this change occurs in all men, generally between the ages of 40 and 55, though it can occur as early as 35 or as late as 65. The term "male menopause" may be a misnomer, as unlike women, men's reproductive systems do not cease to work completely in mid-life; some men continue to father children late into their lives (at age 90 or older[13]). But Diamond claims that, in terms of other life impacts, women’s and men’s experience are somewhat similar phenomena.[14][15][16]

The concept of andropause is perhaps more widely accepted in Australia and some parts of Europe than it is in the United States.[17]

[edit] OpponentsMany clinicians believe that andropause is not a valid concept, because men can continue to reproduce into old age. Their reproductive systems do not stop working completely, and therefore they do not exhibit the sudden and dramatic drops in hormone levels characteristic of women undergoing menopause. In some men before the age of 60 there is a complete loss of libido, erectile function, and orgasmic ability.

Others feel that andropause is simply synonymous with hypogonadism or low testosterone levels.[16] There is opposition to the concept of andropause in Europe as well as the U.S.[18]

Some clinicians argue that many of the cited symptoms are not specific enough to warrant describing a new condition. For example, people who are overweight may be misguided into treating a new illness rather than addressing the lifestyle that led to their being overweight. Similarly, energy levels vary from person to person, and for people who are generally inactive, energy levels will automatically be lower overall.

While it is true that active and otherwise healthy men could in theory develop andropause-like symptoms, how common and widespread the phenomenon is, and whether genetics, lifestyle, environment, or a combination of factors are responsible, is not yet known.

[edit] Suggestions for treatmentAlthough there is disagreement over whether or not andropause is a condition to be "diagnosed" and "treated", those who support that position have made several proposals to address andropause and mitigate some of its effects.

Morley emphasizes the importance of response to treatment, as well as testosterone level and identifiable symptoms.[19]
Mintz, Dotson, & Mukai include an emphasis on hormones other than testosterone. They also focus upon diet, and exercise.[20]
Diamond (a lay person) believes that depression is one of the most common problems of middle-aged men, and feels it is greatly under-diagnosed, sometimes with serious consequences.[21]
The following treatments have been found to be effective.[12][15][17][21] These include:

Hormone replacement therapy[22]
Exercise, dietary changes, stress reduction [22]
Selective androgen receptor modulators have also been proposed.[23]

My friends TRT will get rid of alot of problems a aging male will have.Looking at what we will consider expensive pharma grade testosterone $98.00 10ml vial at cvs if u don't have insurance,it is a small price to pay.U will not need blue pills at $23.00 a pill un will not need anti depresants u will be fit motivated and healthier.Now let's do the math,at most u will take 250 mg a week so that $98.00 vial will last 10 weeks,no drug company is going to make millions fixing most of your health issues for $9.80 a week.Been on TRT for years still do my cycles one day i will quit cycles but never TRT.Be smart my friends live well.

The best thing about TRT is having that script in your hands and being able to get pharm grade test with it! I am still looking for and have never experienced after many UGL's one that comes close to the real dosages listed on pharm grade vials...although the UGL's even undersized dosed still seem to be a better value.
I need to try an expensive UGL and putting to test "you get what you pay for"

"A Stanford University School of Medicine survey of clinical studies on the subject published in early 2007 showed that the application of GH on healthy elderly patients increased muscle by about 2 kg and decreased body fat by the same amount.[32] However, these were the only positive effects from taking GH. No other critical factors were affected, such as bone density, cholesterol levels, lipid measurements, maximal oxygen consumption, or any other factor that would indicate increased fitness.[32] Researchers also did not discover any gain in muscle strength, which led them to believe that GH merely let the body store more water in the muscles rather than increase muscle growth. This would explain the increase in lean body mass." -Wikipedia

"Some recent studies have not been able to support claims that human growth hormone can improve the athletic performance of professional male athletes." -Wikpedia

My impression is that there hasn't been enough research on the use of this, and would suggest staying clear of it. There seems to be some good reports in the wild though, but I would assume these could be influenced/biased by placebo a lot.

Stanford study: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17227934
No athletic benefits: grg51.typepad.com/steroid_nation/2008/03/review-from-sta.html, bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=awlswGxIiU5c&refer=home and ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18347346

Edit: I can see that medical use of HGH is FDA approved, so I guess my earlier claim that there hasn't been done enough research doesn't quite hold water. But again, the FDA approval is for administration in an approved way, probably with the follow up by medical staff. And it seems as there aren't so many benefits from HGH use either.