Oral Only - Andriol/Dbol Advice Please
Hi everyone,
New to the thread and to the world.
I have some complicated limitations on what I can do and unfortunately the only thing available is an oral only cycle due to some constant traveling intercontinentally.
I have Andriol (Testeocaps) and Dianabol and was looking to run an 8 week cycle. I have heard tons of negative about the Andriol and I know it isn't worth much but I already have it on hand, so here's my question:
If it is all I have, is it worth it to run the two together? Or not worth it at all, I already have both of them so it's not a question of spending $$, damage has been done.
I was going to run;
280mg ED of andriol (7 caps spread out daily) - 1-8 wks
20mg ED of Dbol - 1-4 wks
Also I am a beginner and this would be a 1st time cycle.
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AnonI still don't buy the traveling is the only reason you have to do an oral only cycle
you can mail yourself pins
get them at a needle exchange
order them and have them shipped to wherever you go..
I just don't see that as an excuse. Taking an all oral cycle like this will do nothing but trash your liver and lipid profile.. Sell em to a friend, or dump them in the toilet because it seems you haven't done your research.
If you don't even have the concept of a PCT grasped.. you have no means swallowing a bunch of oral steroids.. just my .02
Because I travel 4 weeks gone 4 weeks home constant rotation and there is NO mail here believe me, the oral only cycle was a last resort and yes I have done plenty of research including a handful of friends that have cycled for a while now and had their advice and input the whole way, and they told me the oral was crap.
Yes I have my PCT grasped and in hand, I know that is the most important part I have trained my whole life but never wanted to juice until my recent stand still.
Thanks for the help all, I appreciate the advice, i'm def not taking the caps, going to arrange for a injection cycle and run it right. Appreciate the help from those who weren't to narrow mind with a beginner...
Are you going to train and eat right? Andriol is crap compared to an inject, but I can say that when I trained in the phillipines, there was a guy that did andriol only, and he had some of the biggest, best looking triceps I have ever seen in person (For a 170 asian guy)The funny thing is, this dudes name was Caps lol
sgtstedankoI travel all the time as well brother. You're obviously not a mil contractor, or operator of sorts. So, my advice is this. Wait! Go all natty w/a good fresh min processed food diet while traveling. Shopping at a fresh market. All while planning & then executing a perfect cycle for you. Pm tread, or some other knowledgeable dude on here, & explain your sit. I'm sure they can make it the best possible. For the amount of $ on andriol these days, you want to do it right : )
tread-mSo if all you had on hand were draino caps or d-con would you run those? Lol. I know , of course not. Your question is fine trust me, I saw a post recently where kid was dead set on running a dbol only cycle for 12 weeks because he got such a good deal on them! No brother, this is your body, not a car . You would be more careful than that with your own dogs health so by all means, make this work or don't do it at all. I and many people could find a way to make this happen for you properly as we talk through your circumstance. Your best bet is to post your exact situation. Do you go to the same place everytime when you travel, how long are you away etc etc...there are longer ester and the mail and po boxes and ups boxes and all sorts of choices as to your situation I would bet. Put all these heads together and let us help you solve it.
No I get your point definitely, thats why I came here before jumping in.
Yeah it is the same place of travel, VERY remote though... I think recently there is a DHL around but even then getting myself into town is hard enough, I think my best bet may be to figure out a way to get them from home. Also, I'm really going to try my hardest to find a trustworthy place I can get myself some pins locally (at my destination).
It is a one month / one month rotation of travel back and forth
if youre able to take your orals when youre travelling why dont you take your pins etc with you so you can pin when your away
Really wish I could but customs won't have it. I'm sure I can figure something out. I'm going to be patient and wait for the right way.
if customs wont have it then what do you think they will do with the dbol and andriol
Already got that through, done and done, andriol looks just like dayquil.
Once they see the pins they want to search EVERYTHING
buy a massage oil bootle rinse it out and sterilise it put your test in that and stick in with your washing and shaving kit also take a mini first aid kit with you stick pins etc in it and if found say they are for draining blisters on your feet
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TxBigBoyBest advice is to take these down to your local college and try to sell them to some stupid kids and get your money back. What I don't understand is if your traveling what's the difference in trying to take pills through customs and oil? Actually your best bet is to run a long ester and maybe you can get off only pinning once a week.
Yeah I know they're not worth much...
I can't travel with the test cyp because of the pins not the liquids. I'd be able to get away with the vials.
Why not wait till your done traveling and do this shit the right way.
Because I travel constantly for work, I won't have a 8 wk period at home.
Looks like your best bet would be to go the all natural way my man. Why run any AAS if you can't dedicate the time it will take to truly benefit from it.
bro, i wrap my pins in my socks and check my bag... never had a problem
...send your pins to yourself
...local needle exchange
...wait til you're done traveling
options,options,options
Bags are checked solidly by international customs, and it will be a HUGE ordeal if found.
and I'm never done traveling... and there is no mail where i'm going...
I'm pretty much effed, guess i'll have to wait until later down the line.
TxBigBoyCan you not get needles where you are going?
And from you saying that the vials aren't a problem then Im guessing you will transfer the oil into a b12 bottle you have a script for? Then wouldn't needles be ok to travel with?
No, no script for B12 but thats a good idea... I would just travel with the vials as they are, believe it or not my medicine bag has never been looked through in all years of travel, only time was when there was some metal nail clippers in there.
No way in hell.
I've tried everything before I went the oral only route.
TxBigBoyI'm really having a hard time understanding this, how could you get away with having vials of steroids and not needles(which last time I check weren't illegal)?
Because a vial of liquid has never raised any flags for me before, I'm not saying the test vials won't, but I don't think i'd have a problem. I buy up some B12 from the local pharmacies and fly it back home with no problems, its the needles that would raise the flag for them to search through all of my shit and ask me to produce a script.
What about if I can only get limited pins and only stick once a wk at 500mg instead of twice at 250? half life will still give good response right?
Hell I might try it with the B12 without a script and check it all...
TxBigBoyYour levels won't be as stable but pinning once a week with cyp is a big step up from an oral only cycle. You will still get a good response from once a week.
Don't run them at all bro. Unless you want to blow up for a few weeks and then shrink back down, kinda like a blow up doll. Not worth the damage you are more than likely going to cause to your liver.
Ok that's what I wanted to know.
Suggest taking any individually?
TxBigBoyGonna appoligize ahead of time for this. Bro you should do it, run them both at the same time and when(not if) you lose all your gains or start having liver issues please come back to this forum and post about it so all the other dumb fucks can get a better understanding of why this is stupid. Tx out!
No man, def not gonna run them at all, i'm gonna figure out getting the pins and vials around.
Believe me, I had a strong feeling it wasn't worth shit but definitely wanted some experienced opinions on it because i'll be honest I don't know much of anything bout it, all i know is the million internet threads and articles I've read which are WAY conflicting on orals only. Thanks for the help, definitely a waste of my time and effort.
TxBigBoySave them and when you have the time to commit to a full cycle run the dbol as a kick start of your test cycle.
Good deal, that was my first intention of the dbol, was a kick start with cyp... that's what i'm going to do, again thanks for the help
TxBigBoyNo prob bro, good luck with everything
Unless your going to be running some test as a base, no none at all. There really is no way around it bro.
yeah, no sense in risking the damage when there's really no benefit to weigh it with.
I'm going to try to figure out shipment and do it right.