posted Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:50
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Legs: Whats The Point?
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you prolly thought i was going to say something like "whats the point in doing legs?" nah. the point of "whats the point?" is whats the point in doing 5 or 6 different quad exercises going from squats to front squats, leg presses to lunges, etc. why not just pick an exercise and hit 24 sets rotating your feet and readjusting your range of motion and weight? when you think about how your legs are positioned from each pressing exercise, and the pressing motion involved its really all the same. your legs are straight, they bend, and then your legs are straight again. random 3:00 am thoughts.
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If you can deadlift 500 lbs and squat 400 lbs (for 5 reps) you're legs will be just fine.
legs for me is a tuff one. I use to bust my ass hitting legs as one of hardest workouts twice a week consistently breaking it down from quads to hams. this is the one muscle group now that i tend to lose quick interest in so im trying to keep that alive especially for my next cycle coming up.
Crazy sometimes the shit that comes to you at 3 am. wallabokkie hit it right on the head. You hit from different angles each exercise. Yes you are working the same muscle but from different angles. It's good to keep your muscles guessing so they continue to grow.
Hmm I see what you are saying, however by using different exercises bro you are placing different stresses on the muscles and therefore if done correctly stimulating growth. If you use the same train of thought why dont you just do 24 sets of pushup's for your chest,shoulders and tri's and be done with it. i do agree with lunges being a waste of time though. They place a lot of strain on the knee. If you are tall you should realy stay away from them just like shoulder press behind the neck
Ditto..however I love my shoulder presses behind the neck AND in front! I have read conflicting research that it's bad for the rotator cuffs though, is that why u say that?
That's it exactly. It places you in an un-natural position and therefore you can do alot of damage whilst straining to push a heavy weight ( as there is no other weight to use but heavy).
I have read where Arnold did them, and certainly I see people doing it at the gym. But let me tell you that it IS bad for the rotator cuff. Any ortho will tell you the same. Years ago I didn't know any better and all of a sudden I felt a weird stinging pain in my shoulder area. I let ALOT of time go by before I really stresses my shoulder again and it came right back like it was yesterday. In the meantime I've studied alot about training including the NASM Personal Training course, Arnold's books, Bill Pearls Keys To The Inner Universe and everything together makes it abundantly clear to stear away from behind the neck exercises. Who knows...you might be alright, no problems at all. But is it worth it? I have lifelong tendinosis in both rotator cuff that severly limits what I can do now. Wish I changed my form earlier
Good to know, I've def read more bad than good about them, you said anybeuind the neck exercises but Ive read that behind the neck pull ups are different, as in it's ok to pull but not push, thoughts?
Alot of trainers and physios don't like behind the neck pullups either. They give the same reason - impingement of the anterior deltoids in the position where the bar is on the neck. There seems to be alot of lucky guys who can get away with these moves though. Or those could be guys who just don't have a problem YET!
Personally I like to do overhead presses by leaning forward after the bar clears my head so I finish the same as a behind the neck press. Supposedly this gives the benefits without the risks.