posted Tue, 01/03/2012 - 16:01
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Test E first cycle no gain
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im at the end of my 5th week of 500mg of test e, this is my first cycle and i havent put on weight. any suggestions or comments? using testos e 250 from pharmacom. eating 4-5 thousand cals a day. age 25, 5'8" 180lbs.
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week 5? You know Enanthate takes 4 weeks to completely kick in, so you've really only been "on" for 1 week. I looked at your diet and it doesnt really look like 5k calories, unless that weight gainer is some of that ridiculous crap from the 90's with 3k calories per serving. If so, then you should ditch that and spread the cals out all day, with actual food.
thanks, i added up my calories meal for meal and im right around 4k calories so not 5, but i have atleast 2 weight gainers a day to get 4k, havin a hard time eating that much i feel like im force feeding every meal.
you are past week 5 your blood levels of test are peaked. A simple blood test will tell you all you need to know about the quality of the test you are taking. thats the beauty of test, we can test for it. 500mgs of test e a week should put you over 2,000mg (prime muscle building). if you arent there, your gear is no good. if we all got regualar blood tests and posted them on this site there wouldn't be so many fakes and under-dosed gear out there.
i do a 2 on 1 off..if im tired ill skip to make sure i have adequate rest. so it generally turns to 3 days of no gym through 1 rotation.
read below my diet is posted.
What about strength gains? Have you seen any improvement in that department?
my strenght has gone up in all areas
Your probably not eating enought like you think you are because eating 4 5k cal without gear you'll still see gain in weight
AnonI was thinking the same thing at that many cals you should be gaining weight unless you've got super metabolism.
How's your blood pressure? By week five it should be well elevated. Any strength gains?
sounds like bunk or very under-dosed gear. i gained lean weight(8 lbs) by week 4 on my hrt dose of 150 mg a week of test. i reccomend alpha pharm testobolin. its fairly new and not faked much.
HAHAHAHA im glad to see you said that it wasnt faked (MUCH) hahahaha i love that hopefully peeps wont see too "much" of the fake ones, but i am in agreement with you alpha is a fav of a few of my friends!!
Alpha pharma? Really? What do u know about alpha pharma im interested to hear what gains u made off it
yes AP. I took 150mg a week or HRT. I wasn't expecting to or trying to take a dose that would put on a lot of muscle. I just wanted my test levels to go from 320 ( low) to a high normal (800 -1100). This is exactly what happened. After 4 weeks of my test is now 1081. Labs test don't lie. AP is gtg. I am up 8 lbs as well.
AnonGentleman try not to get too far off track with the conversation and or start a new thread. thanks ;-)
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkYou should def have some weight gain from 5 weeks at 500mg, at the very least you should have put on some water weight.
Unless of course you are taking an anti estrogen, this will stop the weight gain from water retention
If you bring your estrogen levels down enough then the gains will be all lean muscle mass.
Are you taking nolva or arimedex of anything else to stop estrogen?
If you are just doing test with no anti e then you really need to question the 'real' dosage of the gear.
not taking any anti-estrogen at all.
Anonif he's on too much of an AI, it can stop gains all together. Estrogen is needed in muscle building.
yeh definitely, too much AI will kill gains on your cycle.
you need to have at least a little estrogen present
AnonI question if you're going inter muscular, otherwise you're wasting your gear.
Good point, if its not intramuscular, but subcutaneous or your not penetrating deep enough into tissue, it will not absorb properly, I have a buddy where this happened to him hes high bf% and was using 1" needles in his buttocks and he started using 1 1/2" needles due to the pharmacy being out of the other ones and he started seeing better results, he was using prop but not tren. I think it varies between compounds also, like tren I would see as absorbing almost anywhere but test, I know has to be IM unless it is super thin oil or water based.
AnonI think its a viable possibility, especially with a noobie user.
I wouldnt fuck with pharmacom JMO, with so many great dom src's on here, why would u go with pharmacom? Just curious
their rated in the top 3 on this site...
Anonpharmacom is not known to put out bunk gear .. or selectively scam..
well if they put out bunk gear then how would they remain in the top 3 on here. thats garbage..if they scam then they shouldnt be on the top list.
disregard...didnt see the NOT at first..but my diet is there and im using 1 1/2" needles into glutes...
Im not saying they are a scam, I just wouldnt wanna try the gear just my opinion, only becuz they r overseas not even becuz of the gear. I got a cpl dom srcs I have used and shit is working well
Anonwe've ordered both domestic and overseas.. I worry more about domestic than I do overseas.. if a domestic source gets busted then 9 times out of 10 all the customer information is compromised as well..
Very good point grrrl!
True....didnt think about that
day 1-chest and tri. large muscle groups 12 sets either 3-4 excercises
2-back and bi small muscle groups 9 sets 3 excercises
3-off
4-shoulders and calves
5-quads and hams
6-off-repeat
meal
1-weight gainer shake w/milk
2-4 whole scrambled eggs and grits or hash browns
3-chicken breast or equal amount of beef and usually rice
4-same as 3
5- weight gainer shake-PWO
6-usually a chicken breast and some rice or bread
7-Protein shake w/ milk at bedtime
thats generally where im at but the diet alters. non workout days its hard to eat as much so might not get all that.
TxBigBoyWith that diet you should be at least gaining something, if you really think it's the gear then I'd suggest either a blood test to verify your test levels or switch to a different source. Being only 5 weeks in you could easily run for 10 more weeks on new gear and be fine.
Bro naturally u should b gaining weight from that much cal intake. Stats?