posted Mon, 12/12/2011 - 15:52
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best fat burner (no clen/steroid)
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whats the best fat burner or fat burning stack to use while on a diet and excessive routine? im not looking for clen or any steroids. just plain and simple OTC fat burning suggestions.
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oxy elite pro
bronkaid were i live is 6.00 a box at walmart.
I always preferred 25 mg ephedrine tabs pharma grade
you can buy bronkaid over the counter at your local pharmacy. you will have to show id because there is a monthly limit on how much you can buy. a bottle of no-doz pills are like 6 dollars and available everywhere. making your own EC stack is much cheaper and more effective than something like oxyelite.
MeinuntergangMethyldrene 25 Elite is by far the best and probably the only good non-hormonal thermogenic. It has 25 mg of ephedrine, 260 mg caffeine, 80 mg willow bark, 20 mg 1,3 dymethylamamine 'the stuff in Jack3d' and Yohimbine HCL. Worked beautifully for me, but I also dieted insanely and lost a lot of weight, both fat and muscle so pay attention to your diet.
JohnnyBlackIt has ephedra not ephedrine in it only downside
Hey mate. To be honest why give your cash to a supplement company when all you need are the right foods. They guys that mentioned intermitent fasting is all well and good for someone who is over weight and wants to loose weight but this is not good for gaining and maintaining muscle mass. Fasting can or does in fact push you into a catabolic state (not good). Here is what I have found to be the best thing to drop the BF naturally. Change yoour diet bro. Eat every 2-3 hours, change what you eat. A very basic method is 1/3 of your plate meat (protien) and the rest fiberous carbs (slads) salads act as negative calorie foods and as such allow you to burn more calories than they contain. So this automatically put you into a negative caloric intake for the day. Well so to speak. No sugars, low fat meats, no dressings and do cardio 6 days a week. Keep your money for stuff that actually works mate. At the end of the day there is no substitute for doing the work. We as people are always looking for the easy way out, but this isnt always the best thing to do. You are adding more chemicals into your body and thus placing additional stress on yourliver and kidnies. Also by eating like that all the goodness of those foods assist in detoxing and providing essential vitamins, minerals and fibre bro. Good luck
AnonI use n2burn from needtobuildmuscel. I like gives me energy through the day and helps curb appetite
Animal cuts is pretty strong. I put on some friends with it and they love it. I lost 30 lbs since May. I bought two cans. Didnt use religous,. Didnt diet right. I drank alot. Still lost the weight. Now I'm eating right and not drinking. Will be getting my 3rd can soon!
Intermittent fasting and you wont find that OTC read into it
Second on this. Intermittent fasting/leangains is very good in addition to some caffeine. The key thing is to avoid sugar, even post workout I've found.
+1 If I could. I use to use low carb diets to cut up, but I could never shred evenly at the bottom of my abdomen. As I'm getting older low-carb stopped working and I stumbled upon intermittent fasting. It is great at shredding and specifically at stubborn fat... See: http://www.leangains.com/2010/06/intermittent-fasting-and-stubborn-body....
http://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/weight-loss/re-what-...
I liked recreate. Please google so I don't have to explain. But it's a good OTC thermogenic. I'm sure better is out there, but it worked well for me.
dump your girlfriend and find a hotter one.
Crush 30mg rittalin and mix with a speed stack, drop 36mg concerta in the mix and upon waking shake it up and get ready to fly
Go with green tea pills, anything else is a waste and should come with a script of xanex for sides.
Phen375 (Fat Burner) - http://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=168081&s=157 I received the order and it was on time and the pills work great.
1- oxy elite
2- animal pack
3- lipo6 black
Those worked the best with my body!
Good luck mate!
cayane pepper, n spicy foods have been shown to increase metabolism. watch sodium intake, drink lotsa water
Oxy Elite Pro was probably my fav but IMO fuck fat burners, you don't make the lifestyle changes that you need to make, they're pretty much just gonna harm you.
i really like the roxylean eca stack but i think they may have discontinued it by now but im not sure, if you can get it then you should try it. i would take two pills in the a.m. and i wouldnt want to eat all day. it made it easier to eat cleaner foods since i wasnt starving all day
Oxy Elite Pro from USP Labs. censored has it for like $34...where every where else it's at least $45
ECA.
AnonExercise?
yes i am already on a diet and exercise routine, ive lost 36lbs already (from 295) just want to see if there's any OTC fat burners to give me that extra lending hand as i know steroid and clen use is not recommended for my size.
sgtstedankoSprint for as long as you can, then rest for a minute or two, off&on for at least 10 or so min 1st thing in the morning on an empty stomach, after a cup or 2 of coffee. 3-4 times per week. On top of excessive exercise:) nothing better than that, as far as I know?
AnonI got that, my answer is just keep doing what you are doing, there is no magic fat burner...
Very VERY true
I've done everything from adderall to rittalin to mixing them with speed stacks, ephedrah as well and guess what? The weight comes back :0 omg right?!?!
Not only that but it fucks your nervous system up and makes you a moody prick.
Stick with a solid diet and take a speed stack for exercise or ripped force caus those begin and end within 2 hours and don't make you fly like a crack head. rittalin and adderall are for those in need of ADD meds and are NOT to be touched by anybody else or you will end up changing your body chemistry and actually NEED them for daily life.
Please try simple speed stack before any rittalin/adderall or Clen/ ephedrah stuff
sgtstedankoNO, NO NO! I hear diet & exercise are both highly overrated; especially when done properly, together : ) : ) I think "excessive routine" covered that exercise part? I hope.
JtizzleYeah i think the excessive routine includes at least a little exercise .. lol think it was a mis-spell
yes i ment to say exercise, stupid auto correct
sgtstedankoI pers like hydroxycut hardcore, Green tea, & cinnamon. &/Or anything that will raise your body temp
OE2000Caffeine alone works great for me. Kwik Energy from Universal Nutrition. But be aware, this can raise your blood pressure, especially on a heavy cycle!
Also, L-Carnitine, but you have to take alot of it, 3-5 grams for it to be effective!
JtizzleECA (ephedrine , caffeine , asprin) stack gets pretty good reviews , not sure if ur ok with eph though