posted Mon, 12/12/2011 - 03:32
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testosterone alternative?
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is there a testosterone alternative? im new to this but i wont start until i hit 15% bf. im currently 32, 259lbs 35%bf and on a strict diet and exercise routine, i have a trainer at the gym too (i used to be 295lb)the reason i ask is because i have a phobia of needles. i have winny atm (again not starting till i lose enough weight and bf an i do have liver and joint products to help) and i heard that shouldn't take it without test and others say i can take it alone. can anyone give me an answer if there's an oral way to take test without breaking the bank or should i take something else other than winny.
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want to thank everyone for the suggestions and support, i guarandamntee that i follow the right path (being on that diet/exercise to reach to optimal bf%) before i even touch any anabolic. you guys are great!
Test is the base and is all I have ever used for a long long time. Quite simply it works!! Pinning is no big deal bro. 23 gauge 1 inch in your delt. Think of it as a booster shot. I promise I have had tetnus shots hurt much worse.
JtizzleI just wanted to say good for you for gettin serious about getting into shape.. Good luck man!
There is a way mate it's called andriol test caps, made by oragnon but it could get pricey
tread-mBrother its test or turn around and walk back out the door. You have to get past the needle issue if this is where you want to be. At your age you will need test period and to get yourself in an unhealthy habit and become a pill muncher will eventually hammer your liver because you WILL NOT STOP ONCE YOU START. Its just fact, you get a taste of the much better situation and it will become your lifestyle so to do it right and do it healthy is the only way to go. Test from a needle or go back where you came from and forget all about this place. You want to improve your health and look right? Your liver is part of your health, a huge part of your health. Get small pins, even 25's if you have to and just heat the oil good so you can run it easier and man up and get it done. If you have a phobia then you have someone else pin you until you get used to having it done to some degree and pin twice a week. Twice a week because its more stable but also to make you become comfortable with pinning. It might take you longer than someone who has no problems with needles but you too will eventually get to where its like brushing your teeth. Its not nearly as bad as you think, its a head game for you right night and overcoming that will occur at some point and that will be one more thing in your life that you have conquered and again, you're doing it right and not tweaking on pills.
That phobia goes away fast. Just suck it up and try the b12 like the others have mentioned. After a while some of us sick fuckers look forward to pinning
There simply is no alternative to test.
OE2000There is NO liver support supplement available that will keep oral testosterone from dissolving your liver.... Don't do it! Learn to love the syringe, I did!
ItsNoelAtleat take some test boosters like TRIBULUS or ED sales test pills!
trib dont work, its a waste of money. o/p try daa for a natural test booster
Eric090585as far as test boosters... i've found that T-BOL works the best...makes my skin all oily and gross lol bright orange capsules and you can get'em off of amazon
ItsNoelnice
Bro, keep up with ur diet and excercise, thats good u are dedicated enough to get a trainer and what not. Testosterone is the BASE for pretty much ALL cycles, unless ur gonna run an oral cycle consisting of ...anavar for example. There is a oral form of testosterone but its gonna be harder to find and I bet it gets faked a lot. Its called methyl-testosterone and it is highly toxic to tge liver it should only be ran for 6 wks IMO. Keep up with the diet, and when u get down to like 15-20% , jump on a cycle if you feel comfortable enough, get some test E and try that out alone , but u MUST keep up with ur diet while on cycle. Oh yeah .....TRAIN HARD ! Good luck bro
thank you very much for the information I'll probably use anavar instead of winny then as its more safer. i should have added that im looking more for a lean body than a bulky body. is test still better to use? i read that primo depo although more expensive is safer and is used more for lean muscle. again thanks everyone! and thanks Nasty81Nate I'll figure a way to get over my phobia.
Well honestly after u do ur first shot and realize how easy and painless it is, maybe you'll be more open to this suggestion, I think test propionate and anavar would be a sick combo for what your trying to do....like maybe do 6 wks of prop and finish the cycle with 6 wks of anavar.
Nasty81NateTEST IS THE FOUNDATION OF ANY AND ALL STEROID CYCLES
Your just gonna have to get over your fear of needles bro if you plan on doing any type of steroids.
Eric090585nate's on it...can't pin? then it's diet & exercise for you bro..get some b12 and pin that a couple times to see if you can handle pinning test bro. kinda like a practice run lol
i was terrified of needles too man..now i have no prob pinning myself, but i still almost pass out when the dr gets ready to draw blood lol
Nasty81NateX2 on the B12 practice bro. Get ya a 25g 1" and do it in the delts or ass. You can get some B12 at AR-R.com, here's the link http://www.ar-r.com/accessories.html?p=2
This stuff is easy cheesy bro, great stuff to pop your pin cherry with.
not a bad idea. i will give that a shot...(no pun intended)
ItsNoelLet em know