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+ 1 How to measure your raw powder AAS

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I see lots of guys wanting to know how to measure raw powders for so I wanted to address this issue. I made a joke in another thread about using a rolled up bill and a mirror, but that is probably not a good way to take it ;) and it still dose not address the issue of measuring the powder.
There are many ways to take powder AAS, such as making a suspension, or mixing the raw powder with protein or creatine and making caps.
I have a way that will be more accurate and take less time if you are willing to spend a bit of cash to buy a digital grain scale. What is a gain scale, you might be asking? A grain scale is a very accurate scale that is used to re-load or make your own ammunition. What is a grain? A grain is an old term that was used to measure the weight of a single grain of cereal. The grain is used today mostly in measure the weight/amount of gunpowder in ammunition. It is also used in measuring gold and precious stones. 1 grain is equal to 64.7 miligrams.
A grain scale has to be very accurate because if you overload the round when putting in gun powder, the result could be much more dangerous than eating a bit too much of some AAS powder, and the round can blow up in the firearm.
Grain scales can be found on-line for $100-$200 and at shooting supply stores, gun shops and guns shows. They are a much better choice than using a digi scale that you can buy at the local stoner head shop. A decent grain scale can measure as little as 1/10 of a grain. So, if you want to be able to weigh out your raw powders daily without the hassle of making suspensions or caps, spend a couple bucks on a good ammo gain scale, weigh out your shit and your G2G!!!
Hope this helps, Happy lifting!

KMC's picture

Some of the components in making oils need to be weighted also.

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ch4el5onnen's picture

I have a question here...So you can actually ingest say Test P raw powder orally and still get the same effect as if you were to make your own oil and inject it IM or is this just for say dbol and other oral powders? Id also like to throw out there too amazon sells digi scales for cheap depending on what and how much your weighing out. I only do a small amount at a time so I dont need a high quality scale, The one I got was about 30$ and gets the jobe done.

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Test Prop would be eliminated on the first pass thru the liver if I'm not mistaken,
the only oral form Test is a pill form of Test U, and even it has a fairly high elimination rate but seem to be fairly (cough) liver safe. If you belive Big Phara (cough).

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ch4el5onnen's picture

Ok thats what I figured. I just make my own prop anymore, that way I know what Im getting. Im set for long time ;)

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I could post up some links too but I won't because Im really not trying to get into it with anyone, I even gave you a plus one bro so Like I said before I was just stating that there is other information out there. I completely agree with you Im sure 4.7 mg is not going to make any difference with steroid powder.

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Ok guys. go to this wiki page and scroll down to the heading mass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_units#Mass

the drug measurement "dram" may be confusing the issuse.

Grain = 1/7,000 of a pound. or 64.79891 mg

Happy reading.

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ch4el5onnen's picture

Ok well it must be different in the medical world. Thyroid drugs can be very delicate and everything that has to do with medicines that Ive looked at says what I wrote above. But for real Im not trying to say your putting up bad info or trying to make you look bad. I was just stating what it says in med books. There is obviously conflicting information depending on where you look because I have seen both.

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No man, yours was +/- 1/10 of a grain or 6.5 mgs

The one I posted was +/- 0.1 mgs

Like I said you really have to read the print close, I think they do it to sell you less than you need so you come back for the one you do need.

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KMC's picture

+/- 1/10 of a grain is... plus or minus 6.48 mg (+/- .01 mg)

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Here is a $55 scale that claims 0.1mg of accuracy, I would do more checking and becareful how they word things, right beside this one was one claiming 0.01 grams which is 10 mg of accuracy. One really needs to read the print closely and understand the differences.

http://www.medical-and-lab-supplies.com/scales-weigh-supplies/digital-sc...

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KMC's picture

I'll run the number in a second, but I can tell you from memory there are 7000 grains in a pound of powder (16 oz).

I come up at 64.9 mg / grain. (that is just a quick calulation based on:

1000 gram / kg
7,000 grains / pound
2.2 pounds/ kg

Have at it.

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ch4el5onnen's picture

Not to discredit your information because its good info. I just happen to have my drug book out that Ive been reading all morning about HGH, Test, Iron, EPO and a bunch of other crap. Anyway the conersion table in my drug book which is for medical professionals states:
0.06 grams = 60 mg = 1 grain or
0.3 grams = 300 mg = 5 grains or
0.5 grams = 500 mg = 7.5 grains and so on.

Assbrown's picture

how do we measure 1 grain without a scale?

ch4el5onnen's picture

You don't. You need a scale to weigh anything out. Maybe Im reading your question wrong.... Are you talking conversions or actually seperating 1 grain? If you need to seperate 1 grain then yes you will need a scale.

Assbrown's picture

ok, I think my buddy has a scale. But I'll see if it works. Thanks again.

KMC's picture

Man, think about it before you do it. A misplaced decimal point is either 10 times to much or 10 times to little.

Say your taking 50mg of d-bol a day, 5 tabs @ 10mg each, there are 100 @ 10mg parts to a gram and a 1,000 grams to a kg, so if your weighting out the equivelent of 1 tab, that would be 1/ 100,000 of a kg, a reloading scale is +/- 6.48 mgs, the amount can look so small you figure you made a mistake and move the decimal place. Your now taking 500mg of d-bol a day. Your liver ain't going to forgive you.

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