posted Sun, 10/30/2011 - 05:06
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PIP-less Prop and longer acting esters.
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Prop was once notorious for PIP. Now every UGL has smooth stuff and inquiring minds want to know what they are using to achieve this?
Also with these hinh mg/ml Test E and C there seems to be more PIP going around. I understand it is the re-crystallization of the Propianate itself due the esters keeping the drug in the injection site. Then here again some of these UGL's are turning out smooth chit and I'd like to know how.
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tread-mMy understanding has been that prop for example has a little higher alcohol ratio than do the longer etered products. I think it was the same place I read that where I read that you can add more oil or mix with another oil such as deca to briing the ratio down and improve the pip. So assuming there is some truth in the ratio it could be that companies are improving that ratio in order to smooth the products. Not sure there is any truth to this at all but having read it somewhere it came to mind when I saw the question.
AnonI wonder if increasing the BB might be the smoking gun in this "smoothing"? And yes mixing other AAS in the same syringe is going to dilute and decrease PIP. But why run Prop and Deca at the same time and be on the OED thing and still get all the water retention? (although I note Prop and reduced water is quite questionable IMO). I'll look in to that higher BA ratio in Prop. Thank you.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.Permalinktread-mYeah I should clarify that a bit..i dont get pip but Ij still mix my oils and dok it in a way that I get one third my weeks dose of deca for example. Even known, for me personally, to split my sauce down to thirds and run the additional prop I want into eod pops. Not even sure personally that has a lot of benefit thougbh Mike given I dont get pip. I have a cousin that just cant do prop at all. More of an allergic type reaction and he will hit a delt for example and the sweeling is about the size of half an apple. We tried popping him with a diluted ratio and same thing. He is not new to gear and then the reason I thought it would help in his case is that he has no trouble at all with sauce or super products containing prop. Its crazy as bell I know, but I kinda miss pip. I thiink it had an effect on me phsycologically knowing I'd been stung and had the juice flowing through my veins! Lol. Nice catch though on the ratio with the long ester, dont want full doses of deca with prop eod! Lol
AnonI am definitely sensitive but not as much as your cousin. I am also a big fan of EOD, it is the psychological aspect you stated. Okay, now I get the Prop and Deca in the same cycle for undeniable Prop kick (love it!)lol
I'd like to come up with 150mg Prop and keep my pins at 3 ml's.
tread-mI hear ya...i will occasionally go ahead and cocktail the whole bottle with my eod formula but most of the time knowing my body so well now I just pull individual bottles and cocktail in the pin. I tend to know if I need just a little more prop for example and may drag an extra 25 or 50 but if your routine is identical everytime then a premix is nice and especially if running over 2 compounds so you dont feel like you're cramming a stick in your arm with the dull needle! Lol
AnonWith you on the adjustments. I'll jack up the Prop or drop the Mast (for instance) depending on how I feel. That is why these "designer" and Sust just doesn't do it for me. Sometimes I like that stick with a dull needle feeling....LMAO!