posted Thu, 09/15/2011 - 07:50
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what type of syringe and needle should i use for intermuscle injecting,im not looking to spot inject.im getting some test 300 and deca and i was going to inject this into my leg.also i was wondering can i mix the test and deca in the same syringe instead of injecting twice and can i use an insulin syringe??
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thanks for he advice people.just wanna research this first.ive test 300 and deca 300 plus d/bol and clomid for recovery,all from lixus labs.ive done a dbol cycle ONLY about 3 months back and i did get some gains.any ideas on a first cycle?
im 31
5 11"
14 and 1/2 stone
Anonthere is a very nice sticky in the anabolic steroid section that speaks to "how to run a cycle" I think you will find it very helpful..
alright already! this has been going on for days and NONE OF YOU are jo_belfast... way to hijack SOMEONE ELSES post...
tread-mI feel dirty now since you put it that way!
Anonwell I for one would like to know where jo is and why haven't they piped up yet??
sgtstedankoI was wondering that earlier as well. Thinking that we probably scared Jo off, all this bickering bout to pin or not to pin w/slin pin. Probably thinking "GOD, look what I started. SORRY JO.
Also there is growing number of MD who prescribe SC testosteron injections, so you can assume that it's bioavailability is as good as IM, of course these are small dosages.
Anondude just cuz the doc says it is so .. doesn't mean it is so.. lol.. I am in the health care field and I can tell you big money and big pharma drive treatment AND research .. so if you want to be a sheeple.. be my guest.. just don't cry about it in some years cuz the treatment went wrong and now there are a host of other issues.. lol.. have a GREAT day..
sgtstedankoWhat's the #? A growing #, like 20? For research purposes only? These days, I honestly try never to assume anything...
tread-mAnother good reason not to do it...the medical community has always been years behind this science. If your faith is in them then you should be at the docs office. They dont learn to prevent disease in medical school they learn how to keep you alive living with disease. Have you ever noticed how they put people on medication to treat high bp knowing they will get all sorts of other issues as a result...type 2, heart disease, cancer etc....they dont fix things in advance. So when you ask the doc years from now why do I have all these problems, what he should say is "years ago when your hormones became out of balance, we didn't adress it, which got us here...my bad. I know the gels do some good and even as you suggest a little benefit is there, better than nothing. But trust me, if I do look to see what the medical community is doing its only so I don't duplicTe their mistakes. The greatest predictor of future activity is past activity, their raw numbers in terms of prevention are not available...because they don't prevent anything....we are a community of leaders here, not followers. Your points are taken P but the horse is dead brother.
Tread, don't get me started on "Big Pharma" and their idea of the best TREATMENTS to make them rich.
Can't get it up,....................we have a pill for that.
Depressed,..........................more pills.
Aches and pains of old age,.........more pills.
But you can't have a shot of Vitamin T or all those other things will go away.
Anonsorry K I brought it up.. lol.. I m in the field.. it happens a LOt
I agree with your opinion on MD 100%, thats why my two 4-years boys did not see any meds since they leave hospital after they came to this world.
Also that's not MD opinions that are important for me but expieriences of ordinary people who has repeatable successes with this protocol.I can see the horse is dead but thats ok with me, I will be glad if someone reading this will notice that there are diffrent approaches that can be experimented.
sgtstedankoYOU, have children!?! GOD help us all:) J/K bud. I just love beating a dead horse... I'm sincerely glad that this method works for you dude... If someone else wants to experiment with it on themselves, more power to them as well. I personally don't think that it's a good idea at all, but you do, and you're you, so do whatever the fuck you want to... Good Day. Better living through chemistry bother. Sometimes, when you're hurt real bad, you have to trust the medics, to know how to save you. Personally they saved my life, "twice now", "NO, not for slin pinning my testicles w/deca:)" and for that I'm thankful every single day, for Doctors, and the medical community. I, like most every single other guy on this site always do research. A lot of it, and every single one of em has said the same thing to you. That being said, A wise individual has told me, that You will do whatever you want anyway. SO, HAPPY JUICING:)
tread-mLol....good! Yeah I'm no scientologist, I'll take an aspirin but as I get older and watch people it amazes me at the trust they put in these idiots. Funny because at family functions I hang and play football whikle all thbe guys my age sit on chairs and eat ....and they end up sayinf things like man are you sure those things you use are safe...they are safer tha n that bag of fing cheetos you just ate...tell them, "see, we're both on meds its just that mine prevent me from looking like you and taking all the meds you take to try and hang on to a few more years of misery, nice chat they're cLling me back in the game?Lol
"see, we're both on meds its just that mine prevent me from looking like you and taking all the meds you take to try and hang on to a few more years of misery"
Excellent
Hrdbdygurrl, on the other hand, is a MEAN bitch::: She doesn't inject at all---she just slices herself open with a dull butterknife and POURS the gear in.
First off, if You use an insulin syringe to inject Test, it's going to take you FOREVER to get the oil drwn into the syringe. Second, unless you're going to pin it into your inner bicep where the fat/skin is paper thin, it will NEVER make it past the sub-q and into the muscle--you may as well drink it.
Go to TSC and get 22 guage needles and 3cc syringes--LUR LOCK.
Save your insulin syringes for HGH.
bro, just went thru this with sarge... he got the input 10x over that 99.9% of the steroid nation would not/will not pin oils with a slin needle... if he still chooses t0 go that route, well, ppl are going to do whatever they want anyway
LOLOL!!! I remember the first time I "tried" to do gear. I got into my dad's medicine cabinet and used a slin pin to shoot 2 IU (LOL) of his test cyp. It took 20 minutes to get it in the syringe. Then I shot it in my quad. The next day I told the guys at the gym what I did.
Years later, fuckers are still making fun of me to this day.
sgtstedankoDamn, for a second I thought we reopened this argument... LMFAO!!! NO SHIT! Glad to see I'm not the only one Goth. I feel so much better about myself now:) Thanks...
Get 5ml syringes or 3ml ones, buy 18 gauge pins for drawing and 23 gauge for injecting I use a 1" or 1.5" for quads (legs) you can mix the deca and test no probs.
Depending on how much you're shooting draw that much air into syringe then inject it into vial if they're multiuse 10ml makes it easier to draw the liquid in then.
Switch to your thinner needle and Aspirate before injecting use the z technique. Leave needle in for 10 seconds after then remove in a straight line.
Best spots are towards top of leg for me less blood vessels.
Sorry to all of you guys, my mistake, what I use is 26G 1/2" needle but people also use 29G insulin pin for their testosteron TRT injections.
"but people also use 29G insulin pin for their testosteron TRT injections."
Really ?? The only Test you may be able to pin with a 29G needle might be a water based Test solution. As for TRT that isn't used very much if at all.
By the way, how long have you been on TRT ???
I've done that myself several times as SC injection, I'm begining TRT since over three months, and no this is for sure Test Enanthate or Cypionate.
As I stated earlier the point with 29G needle is that insulin 1ml pin has very small surface of the plunger and this creates sufficient pressure to inject even oil solutions, I've even used once 30G.
I triple what this guys are saying bro...research!! 23g 1 1/2 for me (Glutes) 1in for quads and delts and are u planning any anti-es and PCT??
Freeez
you can use insulin syringe if you not too fat, 29G 1/2"
An ETHEIOPIAN could'nt pin his quad with a 29g needle.
sgtstedankoLOL! That's exactly what I thought... Ethiopians on gear, Thanks for that visual... Now that's a TV special:)
Man, if your using a 29G pin with an oil,..............you need to quit buying bunk.
sgtstedankoDude, really? REALLY! I learned this as a Sr.in high school... Insulin was too small for oil... I think that it might work for hgh though. But I don't know... If you're using them, then you're wasting your gear. Prob, one saying "My gear is bunk"... I could be wrong here, but I don't think so...
Can you explain how gear can be waisted with smaller needle ?
I don't want to argue with you guys, pin with whatever you want, I just suggest you to try it and then we can talk.
By the way I think that YOU should do some more research, small tip : look for Bill Roberts posts on T-Nation
Anonthe half inch insulin syringe is too short for an intra muscular injection .. these syringes are meant for subcutaneous injections. you might as well drink your gear if you use an slin pin.. for all the good it will do you.
sgtstedankoDon't start this again:) Turned into an argument, a lot of posts got deleted. Wasn't pretty... Dude challenged me to research it. I did. And Evidently you can, and it's all Bill Roberts does nowadays... I know it wouldn't work for me in 1995. But, I didn't know some of the tricks. Story of my life:(
Anonlol.. relax....I use them for my hgh.. but that's it.. I also pin my delts not my quads with a 1.5in pin... plus.. I already had this discussion re: sub q injects of test on another thread but I don't recall threads getting deleted..
sgtstedankoYeah, I think that I read that one to. Dude experimenting w/sub q rip blend or something like that? You're the grrl they like you:) They delete all my witty repertoire. But half the time I have no clue where I am, wondering around aimlessly w/no pants:)
AnonI find it hard to believe that they censor you unless of course you are getting witty in the source review forum and I get deleted from there too.. but I can always hope my posts are up long enough to get the point across..
sgtstedankoHonestly, that's exactly where I am half of the time. Wondering around with no pants "Internets a great thing" with no clue where on this site I am, or how I got there, with a slin pin stuck in my ass:)
Anonhere .. let me help you .. bend over so I can pull it out...lmfao..
sgtstedankoI don't want to argue w/you either bud... IMO that short of a needle NOT REACH deep enough into your muscle to get all of your gear where it needs to go, INTO YOUR MUSCLE, and you're asking for trouble leaving some in between. I was about the same size in hs as I am now, singles % bf, and it absolutely would not work for me. If it works for you. DO IT TO IT BRO. Good luck. MAybe I should try it. I'll research more when I get home. Gotta get back to work:(
tread-mNO..you stick with whatever you want. Two of the Veterans on this board just tried to help you out and you refused the help, if you wanna believe your google then thats up to you, we're hear to learn and help and you seem incapable of either...but don't spread your lack of knowledge on to others....been at it since 1986 and I can assure you I've never popped oils with a half inch insulin for MANY reasons.
Ok, can you name a few of that reasons please ?
tread-mpoint up ..for having a conversation, thanks
tread-mSure I'll PM you 2 very good reasons and tell you everything I run with insulin needles while I'm at it.
Double NO! you need to get on the research wagon urself bro...
You can use it with no problem :), shuts are almost painless, I'm doing this way since over a month few times a week
tread-mFor gear? seriously? NO
Ur in the right place brother... EROIDS is designed to inform and educate.
...and tread hit it on the button... keep researching, AAS is serious business and you can do some serious damage if your uninformed
tread-mNo to the insulin syringe, test and deca together yes and you need to keep the research going.Seriously not being a dick but if you don't know your needles yet you're not nearly ready to pop yourself or know where to pop etc...I appreciate the questions and that's part of learning but do a lot more reading...23 gauge 1" for my gear. Some glute shots need a 1.5"...lotta reading, no hurry to just pop and ask questions later brother.
23ga 1" for me also, i would never use slin needles for gear, first of all it would take forever to draw it up, 2nd, i wouldnt think it would reach deep enough into the muscle tissue to do the job right. thats why doctors dont use them for trt doses. they dont use the 23ga (or 22ga whatever he uses) to just give you pain, they serve a purpose. even if you got slin pins an inch and a half long, it would still take forever to inject it. i could see some use in using 25ga for delts or traps, if thats your thing to shoot in different places. but i use 23 and 25 ga for gear.