I want to take it to the next level
I have been thinking about running a cycle for a long time. I just don't know still though if it is the right move for me. The gym I workout at everyone I train with uses and i'm not the jump on the band wagon because all the cool guys are doing it kinda person but I see the gains they are making and I still make gains and working out with them keeps me pushing it hard. I just want to make the gains that they make in 3 months, I have watched close and I haven't seen any thing bad happen to them. They range in age from 20-30+ what age is the time to start I have read that it is supposed to be when your system is fully developed. I have seen this though in different articles ranging from 21 to 28. I still have a lot of learning about taking testosterone to do I hear about all sorts of things while working out but I want science not to say the guys I workout with are dumb but I would like to get more information from real medical sources.
I would appreciate any links or guidance anyone here can give someone like me to learn more before I begin doing this. I haven't been a member here long but I have been reading information before I joined. I have seen that there is a lot of different veriables to running a cycle. The one that i'm most worried about is controlling my estrogen while on cycle. I know that you are supposed to do blood work so I will need to get that done.
I have also realized that this isn't something that you can do half ass. You can't go cheap the diet and food plus all the meds really add up. I only want to try a testosterone enanthate cycle I have thought about using an oral but I have read only testosterone first time around.
sorry for the essay lol
I would appreciate any advice
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I hope I posted in the right category sorry if I didn't i'm still learning the site
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I think you answered your own question buddy. It's a big decision. If you're on the edge, I'd just keep reading and hold off. +1 for doing research. This forum is a wealth of information (as rusty mentioned, even a ton for a natural in the diet and training sections).
Glad you're here with a clear head.
You want real feedback? Post some pics!!!!
Booooooom.
Keep on growing as you do brother. Fuck the bullshit 3 month gains that are here today gone tomorrow. Your natural gains will stay with you forever. Keep your diet and training on point and keep them gains coming. Keep learning. Keep investing your time in researching your focused goals and how to achieve them. If you don't need gear then why start now ? Keep on keeping on brother
RustyhookerTheres a lot of pride in knowing you're growing without gear. Especially when you're keeping up with your gym crew. I'd even bet that if you asked the food guys for advice you'd add more mass and be leaner.
All natural!
Who are the food guys sorry if thats a dumb question that should be easy to figure out i'm still learning about this site there really is alot to it. I guess there probably is a diet section so I guess that was kinda a dumb question.
My diet could always use some work there are probably only a small percent of us that couldn't and there on a stage somewhere lol
Thanks for your response
I see myself staying natural for awhile still but one day I will cross the line I believe.
RustyhookerGeneral forums...shaded part up top...catalyst has a good forum.
Makwa, medex you can use magnifying glass up top and read their forums.
NotNatural23well if you are gonna do it research it and then more and be ready for all that could go wrong and then some. Just to be safe. I would come back with full stats and background and ypur proposed cycle and ask for suggestions and if you are doing everything correct. Also have everything on hand before you start if that is what you decide. You don't want to be done then find out your pct is gonna be here 2 weeks later then you thought or you are real sensitive to test converting to estrogen in your body and you have no Aromatase Inhibitors. like I tell everyone do what will make you happy and to each his own. Whatever you end up doing good luck and keep working hard.
thanks brad I will definetly post my stats goals and priors next time I have seen that its important to get good advice.
I will make another post once I get things more sorted out.
srt8caliI can understand the need for wanting to cycle, ive been there where my buddies are blowing up and I'm thinking damn that could be me too if I pull the trigger on this. it just all comes down to your diet and your training and how serious you are. for a tip next time most guys here like the vets wont help unless you post stats in your post ( I'm aware they are on your profile). youre definitely old enough to start using. If your diet is on point and you know you will kill it in the gym then it all comes down to making sure you 100% know what your doing to your body. get some blood work done bro, see where your current levels are now and if everything is healthy. personally for me, if I got done my blood work and my normal levels were in the really higher end I wouldn't consider doing a cycle because it would damage your already stellar levels. but if theyre sub par or just mid then make sure you have everything you need before you start and when you're done, all ur AI and don't skimp out on the blood work throughout the cycle. just do much research and don't use anything other than test E if u do decide to start and 300mg in my opinion is more than enough for a first cycle. but yeah, as you stated already, just keep doing research and getting more opinions. goodluck bro
I guess this is the starting point before anything the bloodwork it gets me curious about where my levels actually are.
Thanks for the advice on how to post I have been seeing some posts where its important to have goals priors and stats I appreciate the heads up.
Brother if you're already keeping up with guys using gear then why start. If you're natty stay natty as long as you can.
Like blaze said its a personal choice but make sure that you make the choice only when you really fell completely ready and research research research. Learn everything even about stuff your not going to use. Then when you feel that you have a strong grasp on the information take it to the next level.
Good luck and good gains brother
I appreciate the reply all I want is to learn as much as possible. The thing is I workout with them but keep up only with some. some are really big guys i'm just average.
Here is a checklist for you to consider.
1. Why would you or do you want to be huge?
2. Can you make the gym your mistress and your diet its needy child?
3. Can you pass everytime your friends want to grab a beer or pass on those delicious desserts?
4. Do you have what it takes to be sub 12% fat all year round?
5. Are you happy with yourself?
Worry about yourself first and foremost. You dont have to be huge to prove anything. Be happy with yourself. To be a bodybuilder you have to give up a lot of shit. AAS still is not a shortcut its a helper. I bet if you eat good and get plenty of rest when they come off cycle and pct you will be stronger and just as big.
Thats the only thing I can add. I am not a bodybuilder because life to me is more then the gym. I gave up powerlifting because Im old and my tendons are like mushed spaghetti. I train now so I can stay in shape and keep up with my wife. Whatever choices you make just make sure its for the right reasons amd not because your friends or the guys in the gym. There will always be someone bigger, smarter, faster, and kick your ass.
I first have to say props to your wife I hope she is kicking your ass in the gym sorry I just feel like its the right thing to do is take her side in the compitition lol
the check list
1:huge as in competing no but I do want to of course want the look that a cycle can give you.
2: the gym isn't even the mistress she is my main squeeze me and my crew that hit it toghther are really serious about it.
3: This is the one that is why I haven't used any gear yet. I have only smoked weed and its not for me I don't drink or do drugs and this is really a big part of why I haven't started to use aas. The desserts might get me though.
4: I don't think so on this one to be honest I enjoy treaining and I look good but i'm average i'm nothing to brag about when it comes to my size and build.
5: This is a good question and I want to say yes but do I look in the mirrior eveyday and say I want to be bigger yes. I honestly don't even consider myself a bodybuilder but we do take it serious maybe one day we could take it to the stage.
I appreciate your response it definetly gets the wheels spinning up top thinking if its the right move or not.
thanks irishmack
It's a personal choice man. Your in the right place. Just use the search tab and check out whatever your interested in more than likely any questions you got have already been asked here. Just don't take it lightly do your research before you jump on. Good luck to you and be safe.
I appreciate the reply I know I can read information on here for months straight and I believe that I will. I will most likely begin to use just when is the question.
thanks