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0
P2i2t
0
10/05/2015 - 11:27
+ 1
My overall experience
5
Average: 5(1 vote)
this is a review for Eurochem Sustanon 250 first off I must say that I have always lovedand had great results usingin this brand. I have used a few different compounds all with great results. And this time was no different.
Products, effectiveness and results
5
Average: 5(1 vote)
eurochem Sustanon 250
Customer service
5
Average: 5(1 vote)
there was really no communication needed. order was placed, automated email was sent, package was received. End of story. Just how it should be.
Shipping and Delivery
5
Average: 5(1 vote)
it took just over a week to receive the pack.no complaints there.the vials were bubble wrapped nice and tight and I would have no worries about breakage happening during transit with the way it was packaged.it was obvious that care was put into packaging the products.
Price to performance
5
Additional comments
I have 0 complaints about the source and nothing but positive things to say thus far. I definitely recommend them and 100 percent recommend eurochem products.
[inactive] Muscle-Depot
» Thanks for the review !
MD
3
texasstar06
3
09/29/2015 - 08:33
-1
My overall experience
This order is in regards to communication, T/A, and appearance of the order I placed. Initially, I asked if I could get my order if payment was received by the end of week. MD said on Monday, I could. Well, I messed up the payment details and it caused a 2 delay, so obviously it couldn't be here by then. What surprised me is that I actually received my order by Monday, giving the T/A 3 Business Days. That was awesome. The T/A times have been updated to 6-10 days, so I was pleasantly surprised. Communication with T/A was very professional, never made me feel like a dumbass for messing up the payment details, and was upfront about the entire process. Order arrived well protected and the product appears legit and not something that was made in grandma's downstairs basement. Euro Chem has a great reputation and you can even go to their website to see that MD are legitimate authorized distributors of the products. I will be doing business in the future and look forward to sharing my results.
Products, effectiveness and results
Oxanol/Anavar
goodie received: Prop 100
Customer service
Awesome. No doubt the smoothest communication I've ever experienced.
Shipping and Delivery
Much better than expected. I hope I don't get spoiled because I sneezed and wa-la, it was here.
Price to performance
Additional comments
Thanks MD. Will be in touch soon for another order.
[inactive] Muscle-Depot
» Thanks for the review and if you need anything else just let me know!
MD
2
Gdouble
2
09/24/2015 - 17:47
+ 1
My overall experience
I absolutely LOVED this supplier! He was always super fast, the gear was top notch and the communication was the best. After about 4 successful orders he emailed me that he had to delay my order because of customs issues. It's been 9 weeks and I have not received anything. After about 4 weeks he will not return any of my emails. He got me for over $600 but oh well. It was good while it lasted. He always seemed like an honest person so I want to believe that he may make good some day but I'm not holding my breath. If he does I'll be sure to post.
Gdouble
» Well, as i mentioned, I would be sure to post if he made good and he did! I received my package 6 days after my previous post. He always seemed like an honest person and as it turns out he is. Waiting over 2 months is enough to make anyone think they got screwed but you could tell from the tone of my previous review I wanted to believe in him so you'll notice I didn't want to bash him outright. Anyway, he's on my A list! Thanks so much!
[inactive] Muscle-Depot
» Bro! Check your spam folder! I'm tired emailing you....
Or email me from other email, cause you're not getting my emails at all. Your order will be there in about a week!
0
bigbenchben
0
09/17/2015 - 07:50
-2
My overall experience
Muscle-Depot will not be the place of business for me anymore sadly. Product legitimacy is just not where it should be. The test E did literally NOTHING for me. This includes increased libro. I will elaborate where necessary
Products, effectiveness and results
Vverall everything is ;
D-bolic - x2
Tren Ace - x2
Test E - x2
Stanzol x1 (promo, it was free with a order)
megabolic 240 x1
Customer service
Communication was always on point and good. Usually within the hour.
Shipping and Delivery
Always took 6 business days every order. none of my vials were ever broken. stanzol could of been packed a bit better.
Price to performance
Additional comments
Megabolic had the worst pip IN MY LIFE. I COULD NOT WALK. I had to take ibuprofen to even sit down. worst pain ive ever felt. i did think maybe because it was my first time injecting, but the tren hurt less and the test was painless even at 2cc's.
Would recommend... i guess. convenient since their domestic shipping, but besides that, product quality needs work. LOTS.
Anon
» #MAKE YOUR MIND UP!!! PRODUCTS WORKED AND THEN YOU SAY ITS GARBAGE... AT TOP YOU SAY YOU WILL NOT SHOP HERE AND AT BOTTOM YOU RECOMMEND SHOPPING HERE!!
#AND YOU GO ON TO SAY THIS WAS YOUR FIRST CYCLE....IM JUST GONNA STOP RIGHT THERE
5
trainforgain
5
09/16/2015 - 19:24
+ 3
My overall experience
5
Average: 5(1 vote)
What can I say, top notch supplier with top notch gear. Nothing short of stellar in my book. Always had good customer service and gear. I'll explain below
Products, effectiveness and results
5
Average: 5(1 vote)
I've used a lot of products,
Test e, sust 250, DECA 250, tren, equipoise, anadrol, dbol, winstrol, proviron, letro, adex, cialis, Viagra.
Customer service
5
Average: 5(1 vote)
Communication is great. Usually twice a day MD will get back to me through pm on anything I have a question about or need. And no matter if its a small $100-200 or 2,000 every order gets treated the same. I've had a relationship with MD for over s couple years now. Even doing what I can to help his country out.
Shipping and Delivery
5
Average: 5(1 vote)
T/A on the domestic side of things is usually always under a week. He is one of the only sources I've had do this. If there is gonna be a delay for one reason of another he will inform you and not leave you hanging like. Bro its past the ta where's my order. That's some bullshit. He takes the courtesy of coming to you and saying hey its gonna be a couple more days. Which this rarely rarely ever happens. But its nice because let's face it occasionally shit and life happens and things are gonna take a extra few days from time to time. On the Intl side of things I ushakkt have everything within 2 weeks. Anywhere from 7-14 days. Usually more up to customs then anything else. And everything is always package well and protected. No ratting tablets etc.
Price to performance
5
Additional comments
Order with confidence MD is one of best sources on this board. And he isn't all about the money he really cares about his customers. I've used MD over an couple years now. I use to have bit of money before I hit rock bottom and can barely pay my bills some months they don't get paid. But my point is when I was on top I spent 2-4 grand a month with MD month after month after month and yes after month. I've bought him a 5 star vacation or Mercedes Benz I'm sure. Probably sent him more funds then most of you will spend in 20 years of gear. He is as solid as they come or I wouldn't have invested so much into him. Never had a problem with a order or a package. He is a real og in the lifestyle we partake in. In the 10s of thousands I've given him not one issue or problem and any issues or problems I've seen he makes it more than correct. And like I said above if something is gonna take a extra few days or week he let's you know and leave you hanging and wait for you to message him. Business shouldn't be run like that. He has a great business model, more sources should take.notes from him. And you can best believe if I ever get on top again I'll be buying him another vacation or Mercedes Benz. It takes a lot of trust in your source to say here ya go here's 3k and sometimes send another $1500 or so.before the first one lands. So order with confidence, he's in a friendly part of the world so its not like stateside where a source can go down any random day.
Communication is critical in any sort of transaction based endeavor. You want to know what your getting, who your dealing with, and how they can assist you once the order is placed. In each of these respective fields, MD excels brilliantly! For instance, on my 2nd order, I had paid and things were processing but I forgot to add the HCG. I shot MD an email quick and within an hour, he and I added the HCG to the existing order and I simply paid the difference. Many merchants would require you to create another order and pay for shipping again. Not MD. He understood my needs and delivered, literally.
Shipping and Delivery
5
Average: 5(1 vote)
No complaints here. Everything arrived discreetly, in tact, and well ahead of schedule. In fact, I placed an order on a Friday and it showed up on Saturday. How can you beat that? It literally blew my mind. The other order came in 3 days, which is amazing in and of itself as well. Shipment was, in my experience, same day as payment.
Price to performance
5
Additional comments
If you have any reservations, place a small order. I implore you. You won't be disappointed.
[inactive] Muscle-Depot
» Thanks for the review I appreciate it!!!
MD
6
cthangorilla
6
09/13/2015 - 23:22
Owes a Review! x 1
My overall experience
5
Average: 5(1 vote)
This is for the promo anavar 10mg
Products, effectiveness and results
5
Average: 5(1 vote)
Free anavar ten mg
Customer service
5
Average: 5(1 vote)
Better than necessary. Business as usual with these guys.
Shipping and Delivery
5
Average: 5(1 vote)
Arrived pretty quickly as usual with him, about 5 business days has been my average t/a for md. Packaging wasn't complicated to get into but didn't stand out from anything else I order online. I usually don't realise its an md package until I open it, keeping each packages looking different is comforting in it being less suspicious.
Price to performance
5
Additional comments
Md has some of the best var I've personally tried, it being my favorite compound, i have tried several.
[inactive] Muscle-Depot
» Thanks for the review I appreciate it!
MD
1
Geusehead
1
09/11/2015 - 13:18
+ 1
My overall experience
Reviews for products ordered:
Products, effectiveness and results
Megabolic blend 5/6 bottles, equipoise,megamass blend 5 bottles of that. Winni tabs and anti estrogen, don't remember which one. Also ordered some clenbuteral as well I've been using gear for the last 20+ yrs., and i can say with absolute confidence, that the products I have used from this company have been superior quality products. I cannot illicit enough how clean and properly dosed these products are.
Customer service
Outstanding. Simply put. The man is on top of his game. Immediate response if I had any questions, regardless of the question, or how trivial it might have seemed. Customer service is top priority for this company and it is obvious from start to finish.
Shipping and Delivery
Turn around time is simply the best I have ever experienced with any company, trust me I have used quite a few. With this company, I have literally placed orders on Friday and had package arrive on following Monday, no BS. Like I said, this company has customer service like no other. In addition, all packs have been tightly sealed, secured, and always show up w/o any signs of damage. Again, attention to detail is obvious with packaging.
Price to performance
Additional comments
I have nothing but the highest regards for this company and it's high standard of product quality and customer service. I wouldn't recommend any other source.
[inactive] Muscle-Depot
» Thanks for the review I appreciate it!
MD
6
CaliMuscle91
6
09/10/2015 - 17:27
My overall experience
5
Average: 5(1 vote)
This is my review for the megatest 450
Products, effectiveness and results
5
Average: 5(1 vote)
1 megatest 450
Customer service
5
Average: 5(1 vote)
Answered pms quickly an promptly
Shipping and Delivery
5
Average: 5(1 vote)
Package came lightning fast in just 2 days an was securely wrapped
Price to performance
5
Additional comments
Very high quality product cutting it with something is a must imo I have never come across gear this thick which is good in my book the megatest is going to last me a good 10 weeks off one 10ml Vail!
[inactive] Muscle-Depot
» Those are some good results good job and thanks for the review!
MD
6
CHEB
6
09/09/2015 - 13:40
My overall experience
5
Average: 5(1 vote)
Gear was on point as well as packaging. Been running this year for a little over 2 weeks and have seen a change already. My wife has already gained 5 lbs of lean mass, and is still cutting body fat.
Products, effectiveness and results
5
Average: 5(1 vote)
Test Cyp (2)
Megabolic (1)
Anna (2)
Customer service
5
Average: 5(1 vote)
Communication is on point, and always willing to answer a question.
Shipping and Delivery
5
Average: 5(1 vote)
Packaging was top of the line and very private.
Price to performance
5
Additional comments
My wife and I are seeing serious results, and are monitoring our food intake. I am injecting 3500 cals per day, my wife is at 2500 cals per day. Eating clean, and training dirty!
[inactive] Muscle-Depot
» Thanks for the review I appreciate it!
MD
24
awagz
24
09/08/2015 - 21:37
+ 3
Owes a Review! x 1
My overall experience
5
Average: 5(1 vote)
Sustaject review
Products, effectiveness and results
5
Average: 5(1 vote)
1 Sustaject from Eurochem from a promotion this time.
Customer service
5
Average: 5(1 vote)
Any of my PM'S were answered very quickly, and one thing to note about this source is that he is genuinely polite and very respectful in all of his answers. That's a big plus for me, it makes me feel like I'm dealing with a human, not just someone looking to turn a quick buck.
Shipping and Delivery
5
Average: 5(1 vote)
This was my second order from Muscle Depot, and both orders have arrived very quickly. I want to say this one was about 8 days from shipping, which is very solid. Packing was good, non descript and very safe against breakage.
Price to performance
4.5
Additional comments
Overall, this was a great promo. A good chance to try a product that I now know I will buy in the future, and can put my "stamp of approval" on. I will say that the price on the site is a bit high, especially compared to what other domestics charge for their sust, but in this game I'd be grateful to pay more when I KNOW the product is good. That's the purpose of these promos. I'll have no problem paying extra to know I'm going to get legit results. Thanks MD.biz.
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P2i2tthis is a review for Eurochem Sustanon 250 first off I must say that I have always lovedand had great results usingin this brand. I have used a few different compounds all with great results. And this time was no different.
eurochem Sustanon 250
there was really no communication needed. order was placed, automated email was sent, package was received. End of story. Just how it should be.
it took just over a week to receive the pack.no complaints there.the vials were bubble wrapped nice and tight and I would have no worries about breakage happening during transit with the way it was packaged.it was obvious that care was put into packaging the products.
I have 0 complaints about the source and nothing but positive things to say thus far. I definitely recommend them and 100 percent recommend eurochem products.
I've used this supplier 3 times and never had a problem.
Recently I purchased Test-e 300mg and halotestin. The test-e was great. Libido was through the roof, looked lean.
Halotestin gave me great strength gains and awesome aggression.
2 vials Test-e 300mg
Halotestin
Never had a problem so never had to communicate.
After I placed my order I received a how to pay email but that's it.
Every time I've ordered, I received my order in 2-4 days. Very very fast shipping, discreet, everything is packed tight.
This order is in regards to communication, T/A, and appearance of the order I placed. Initially, I asked if I could get my order if payment was received by the end of week. MD said on Monday, I could. Well, I messed up the payment details and it caused a 2 delay, so obviously it couldn't be here by then. What surprised me is that I actually received my order by Monday, giving the T/A 3 Business Days. That was awesome. The T/A times have been updated to 6-10 days, so I was pleasantly surprised. Communication with T/A was very professional, never made me feel like a dumbass for messing up the payment details, and was upfront about the entire process. Order arrived well protected and the product appears legit and not something that was made in grandma's downstairs basement. Euro Chem has a great reputation and you can even go to their website to see that MD are legitimate authorized distributors of the products. I will be doing business in the future and look forward to sharing my results.
Oxanol/Anavar
goodie received: Prop 100
Awesome. No doubt the smoothest communication I've ever experienced.
Much better than expected. I hope I don't get spoiled because I sneezed and wa-la, it was here.
Thanks MD. Will be in touch soon for another order.
This review is LONG overdue. Sorry for the delay
Propinate
Letro
Nolva 50mg tabs (EC Brand)
Clomid (EC Brand)
GLOTROPIN
He responds to PM's/emails usually within 12 hours, but never longer than 24. He's alsovery professional and polite.
T/A time from sending payment to landing at my door step is usually around 5-6 days. The gear is always securely packed and doesn't look suspicious.
Been my #1 source for going on 2 years now
I absolutely LOVED this supplier! He was always super fast, the gear was top notch and the communication was the best. After about 4 successful orders he emailed me that he had to delay my order because of customs issues. It's been 9 weeks and I have not received anything. After about 4 weeks he will not return any of my emails. He got me for over $600 but oh well. It was good while it lasted. He always seemed like an honest person so I want to believe that he may make good some day but I'm not holding my breath. If he does I'll be sure to post.
ENANJECT 5ml 250mg/ml Ej 6
SUSTAJECT 5ml 250mg/ml Sj 4
TRENAJECT 5ml 75mg/ml Tj 4
OXYTHOL 50mg (50 tabs) OXY 4
Very good
Very good
bigbenchbenMuscle-Depot will not be the place of business for me anymore sadly. Product legitimacy is just not where it should be. The test E did literally NOTHING for me. This includes increased libro. I will elaborate where necessary
Vverall everything is ;
D-bolic - x2
Tren Ace - x2
Test E - x2
Stanzol x1 (promo, it was free with a order)
megabolic 240 x1
Communication was always on point and good. Usually within the hour.
Always took 6 business days every order. none of my vials were ever broken. stanzol could of been packed a bit better.
Megabolic had the worst pip IN MY LIFE. I COULD NOT WALK. I had to take ibuprofen to even sit down. worst pain ive ever felt. i did think maybe because it was my first time injecting, but the tren hurt less and the test was painless even at 2cc's.
Would recommend... i guess. convenient since their domestic shipping, but besides that, product quality needs work. LOTS.
What can I say, top notch supplier with top notch gear. Nothing short of stellar in my book. Always had good customer service and gear. I'll explain below
I've used a lot of products,
Test e, sust 250, DECA 250, tren, equipoise, anadrol, dbol, winstrol, proviron, letro, adex, cialis, Viagra.
Communication is great. Usually twice a day MD will get back to me through pm on anything I have a question about or need. And no matter if its a small $100-200 or 2,000 every order gets treated the same. I've had a relationship with MD for over s couple years now. Even doing what I can to help his country out.
T/A on the domestic side of things is usually always under a week. He is one of the only sources I've had do this. If there is gonna be a delay for one reason of another he will inform you and not leave you hanging like. Bro its past the ta where's my order. That's some bullshit. He takes the courtesy of coming to you and saying hey its gonna be a couple more days. Which this rarely rarely ever happens. But its nice because let's face it occasionally shit and life happens and things are gonna take a extra few days from time to time. On the Intl side of things I ushakkt have everything within 2 weeks. Anywhere from 7-14 days. Usually more up to customs then anything else. And everything is always package well and protected. No ratting tablets etc.
Order with confidence MD is one of best sources on this board. And he isn't all about the money he really cares about his customers. I've used MD over an couple years now. I use to have bit of money before I hit rock bottom and can barely pay my bills some months they don't get paid. But my point is when I was on top I spent 2-4 grand a month with MD month after month after month and yes after month. I've bought him a 5 star vacation or Mercedes Benz I'm sure. Probably sent him more funds then most of you will spend in 20 years of gear. He is as solid as they come or I wouldn't have invested so much into him. Never had a problem with a order or a package. He is a real og in the lifestyle we partake in. In the 10s of thousands I've given him not one issue or problem and any issues or problems I've seen he makes it more than correct. And like I said above if something is gonna take a extra few days or week he let's you know and leave you hanging and wait for you to message him. Business shouldn't be run like that. He has a great business model, more sources should take.notes from him. And you can best believe if I ever get on top again I'll be buying him another vacation or Mercedes Benz. It takes a lot of trust in your source to say here ya go here's 3k and sometimes send another $1500 or so.before the first one lands. So order with confidence, he's in a friendly part of the world so its not like stateside where a source can go down any random day.
This is a long overdue review for what I can say is one of the best US domestic shops around!
PROVI-25 (Proviron) 25mg (100 tabs)
ENANJECT 10ml 250mg/ml
NOLVADEX-50 Tablets 50mg (50 tabs)
ARIMIDEX (Anastrozole Tablets IP, ANTREOL-1) 1mg, 10 tabs
HCG
Communication is critical in any sort of transaction based endeavor. You want to know what your getting, who your dealing with, and how they can assist you once the order is placed. In each of these respective fields, MD excels brilliantly! For instance, on my 2nd order, I had paid and things were processing but I forgot to add the HCG. I shot MD an email quick and within an hour, he and I added the HCG to the existing order and I simply paid the difference. Many merchants would require you to create another order and pay for shipping again. Not MD. He understood my needs and delivered, literally.
No complaints here. Everything arrived discreetly, in tact, and well ahead of schedule. In fact, I placed an order on a Friday and it showed up on Saturday. How can you beat that? It literally blew my mind. The other order came in 3 days, which is amazing in and of itself as well. Shipment was, in my experience, same day as payment.
If you have any reservations, place a small order. I implore you. You won't be disappointed.
This is for the promo anavar 10mg
Free anavar ten mg
Better than necessary. Business as usual with these guys.
Arrived pretty quickly as usual with him, about 5 business days has been my average t/a for md. Packaging wasn't complicated to get into but didn't stand out from anything else I order online. I usually don't realise its an md package until I open it, keeping each packages looking different is comforting in it being less suspicious.
Md has some of the best var I've personally tried, it being my favorite compound, i have tried several.
Reviews for products ordered:
Megabolic blend 5/6 bottles, equipoise,megamass blend 5 bottles of that. Winni tabs and anti estrogen, don't remember which one. Also ordered some clenbuteral as well I've been using gear for the last 20+ yrs., and i can say with absolute confidence, that the products I have used from this company have been superior quality products. I cannot illicit enough how clean and properly dosed these products are.
Outstanding. Simply put. The man is on top of his game. Immediate response if I had any questions, regardless of the question, or how trivial it might have seemed. Customer service is top priority for this company and it is obvious from start to finish.
Turn around time is simply the best I have ever experienced with any company, trust me I have used quite a few. With this company, I have literally placed orders on Friday and had package arrive on following Monday, no BS. Like I said, this company has customer service like no other. In addition, all packs have been tightly sealed, secured, and always show up w/o any signs of damage. Again, attention to detail is obvious with packaging.
I have nothing but the highest regards for this company and it's high standard of product quality and customer service. I wouldn't recommend any other source.
This is my review for the megatest 450
1 megatest 450
Answered pms quickly an promptly
Package came lightning fast in just 2 days an was securely wrapped
Very high quality product cutting it with something is a must imo I have never come across gear this thick which is good in my book the megatest is going to last me a good 10 weeks off one 10ml Vail!
Gear was on point as well as packaging. Been running this year for a little over 2 weeks and have seen a change already. My wife has already gained 5 lbs of lean mass, and is still cutting body fat.
Test Cyp (2)
Megabolic (1)
Anna (2)
Communication is on point, and always willing to answer a question.
Packaging was top of the line and very private.
My wife and I are seeing serious results, and are monitoring our food intake. I am injecting 3500 cals per day, my wife is at 2500 cals per day. Eating clean, and training dirty!
Sustaject review
1 Sustaject from Eurochem from a promotion this time.
Any of my PM'S were answered very quickly, and one thing to note about this source is that he is genuinely polite and very respectful in all of his answers. That's a big plus for me, it makes me feel like I'm dealing with a human, not just someone looking to turn a quick buck.
This was my second order from Muscle Depot, and both orders have arrived very quickly. I want to say this one was about 8 days from shipping, which is very solid. Packing was good, non descript and very safe against breakage.
Overall, this was a great promo. A good chance to try a product that I now know I will buy in the future, and can put my "stamp of approval" on. I will say that the price on the site is a bit high, especially compared to what other domestics charge for their sust, but in this game I'd be grateful to pay more when I KNOW the product is good. That's the purpose of these promos. I'll have no problem paying extra to know I'm going to get legit results. Thanks MD.biz.
This is a review for Eurochem test e. I had a show June 20 then I started a cruise with this test e @ 125 mg a week.
Eurochem test e
We had a little issue with the Shipping but He responded to my pm's quickly with the answer. Otherwise no other issues occurred.
Packaged land within the stated T/A and waa safe and secure.