posted Sat, 10/27/2018 - 13:09
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+ 17 Updated****HPLC test/detailed assay for MGT Aqua
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If you've followed any of this here are the HPLC test results by a 3rd party for the latest batch of MGT Aqua. Hopefully some of the advanced guys will chime in here to help us make sense of the dimmers and other proteins portion. Big thanks to MGT for supplying us with great products and for making this happen.
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Thanks man.....appreciate the time, money and effort spent
The results seem great
It seems to me member velichko has an agenda :/
As far as IU/concentration there is always a standard deviation of +/- 10%
Also, different testing methods do yield different results....but these results (JANO) seems great.....similar to older testing done by ANALYZER
The “red welt” issue didn’t seem to be wide spread (<1%) as other generics (many members getting similar results with every subQ inject)
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Thanks brother. I'm glad you stopped by. Good to know about the 10%, everything else turned out stellar.
Ok guys. About concentration in last report. We can expect some deviation in protein concentration, due to difference in Comparative concentration CRC measurement (we use) vs spectrophotometer assay (Jano use I beleive), and protein concentration issue will be solved to adapt for spectrophotometer assay.
We assure that there are actually 50 UI in a 5ml bottle inside. But I know how many times manufacturers tried to fuck their clients on the black market...
So.
We decided to give additional discount for those who ordered AQUA during August-September-October period. Discount is next: 10$ additional discount for each AQUA kit ordered.
It means, for example: 2 kits ordered in Aug/Sep/Oct = 20$ additional discount for your next order, 5 kits = 50$, 8 kits = 80$ ....
Price for "defect" AQUA kit will be 110$. We will start soon
Great solution! I don't think anyone can complain about that.
+1 brother thanks for testing. . purity level looks good but the ius are a little low.. for the price this is good quality hgh even if it is short a little.. I'll still stick to this source for my gh as I've had great results and mgt is a honest solid source in my opinion.. thanks again brother
Thank you for the contribution! +!
Detailed HPLC assay can be found above. Thanks for your help Acid123.
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I just received the HPLC assays from Janoshik. They are in PDF format so I will have to get to a printer and print them, then take photos to get them on the site....unless any of you guys know how to put a PDF file on here. Hmu if you do, otherwise just have some patience with me and I'll get it done. I've got a pretty full day going as is.
Just use print screen or snipping tool and post as a picture..
Ah I see, thanks bro. I didn't think of just doing a screen shot. I hardly ever use that feature. Pics will be posted in a sec.
I just spoke with Janoshik. He said he can provide a detailed HPLC assay and will send it over as soon as he makes it back to the lab.
Good shit brother!
MGT's fans didn't get the point
1 Janoshik is a self-proclaimed testing "lab", with a history of fake tests and bad reputation. Where's the ACTUAL DATA(HPLC ASSAY)? When the test is done by SIMEC, no doubt here, they did the testing indeed. But this report looks like shit. IF you wanted to get the testing done SOMEHOW and by SOMEONE, then here u go.
2 Assuming the testing is good. Over 11 % less than stated on the label? Whatever my agenda may be here today, why you wanna attack me over this fact, eat it, that's you who don't get what you paid for.
To Gymfoam86 , you racist piece of garbage. I would gladly punch you in the face, if you are so brave, go say the same shit to my comrades in any Russian bar in NY or LA, you will get some {foam} coming out your bitch ass mouth for sure.
I try to understand your point of view but I can not .... yours has all the characteristics of a personal attack ... not good JANO ?? Ok, offer another accredited laboratory in the EU.
Do not judge the product MGT well? Ok, propose your product, presented you as a source of EROIDS, subject you to test and user judgment ....
Please stop shitting in a discussion that does not concern you directly.
Here is I agree with you that Jano didn't provide their test method and real data. That's the point. I expected to see it as well but for some reason there is no this information in the report.
For the future tests we will try to find accredited lab for this job. Just to elimintae all doubts for customers.
About concentration I already replied.
p.s. please try to be a better man and ignore some insults. This is lab.result discussion, do not need extra insults
Does simec test GH? We did a bunch of texting with them several years ago. I personally sent 5 separate products to them for testing...
Tried to contact with them 3 times about testing of our HGH and never got a reply
Don't know why
Simec emailed me back. They no longer test for hgh. Said it's to expensive and the results are so complex that they're very hard for the client to read accurately.
I'll shoot the rep I was talking to an email and see if I can find somethung out...
Velichko I get it, there are less iu's than advertised and Janoshik labs has a negative stigma attached to it because of a particular incident you pointed out before. You just gotta understand that it's not like Russia over here and we don't have access to hgh just like we do protein bars. We are happy to get genuine hgh period. Another top source on here advertises 120iu per kit but when it is tested it's only 100iu. Inconvenient and not what we expected to get, yes absolutely. It hasn't slowed down their business at all though because it is in fact 100iu of quality hgh. There are other brands that have turned out to be total garbage and scams, no hgh at all. This is why many of us are pleased to get high purity and quality. MGT's price makes the idea of being short a few iu's tolerable in my opinion. It would be nice to get the exact amount on the label but things happen. This is the black market. I am also going to ask Janoshik to produce the actual data as you have requested.
Thank you Soulja ! And thank you Jano for the job.
We can expect some deviation in protein concentration, due to difference in Comparative concentration CRC measurement (we use) vs spectrophotometer assay (Jano use I beleive), and protein concentration issue will be solved to adapt for spectrophotometer assay.
I think that type of independent estimation should be settled up, on time basis, which makes relations more open and transparent. Since now.
This practice we will implement once we get new product. I think 1 sample from random customer from each batch produced - will be honest.
Just to eliminate all doubts from your side about laboratories - please help us to find a certified laboratory who can make such tests.
http://www.labochemtox.com/en/analyses Did you try them?
Hgh is not listed in their line up. Might be worth contacting them to find out if it's possible though.
I think that's a great idea. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to do the testing!
I not trust jano
This is nothing like reports from simec
Just sayin ...
Respect
Dope
Is Simec the only accredited lab out there that is available to us? I know MGT tried to contact them but did not get a response.
Im willing to reach out to simec. I've person ally sent 5 samples to them a few years ago.... I still have their contact info. Would love to get them to test this product. The potential for this is amazing. Lost cost, quality GH....
Let me try to get in contact with Analyzer again, he's a solid tester for sure. He includes all data but he has been MIA for a while.
He got busted bro. NandroXXL has some posts on another board about it. I just got the assays that are just like the ones Analyzer gave you. They are in PDF format so I will have to get to a secure place to print them and take pics to get them on here.
No way!!!!! Dam I didn't hear about that!! THATS NO BUENO!!!
+1 for taking the time to test my man. The purity was just about what I expected. The iu content is however pretty disappointing. It would also be nice to see the scientific data that usually accompanies most HPLC testing we've seen in the past. Considering some of the stigma surrounding Jano's testing, you would think he'd provide that info. Not implying this test is BS, but he should be providing as much data as possible to make clear he's doing the work.
I provide the graphs on request, as most people can't read them and it takes time to export those.
Good to know. And thanks for doing so.
I understand what you're saying. I'm going to email him and ask him if there is any other documentation available. All that was included with the test result were 2 pictures of the vial. I was expecting to see the graphs as well.
Besides the lowish IU relative to what’s advertised which is an issue for MGT to respond to I believe this puts to rest the question of purity and immune concerns raised around potential high dimer and related substances levels which should be no more than 6% if memory serves me correctly. Brother Hail will stop by and confirm for us I am sure.
+2 for the the testing bro!
Yes sir, our original expectations on the purity have been confirmed. I'm sure MGT will be commenting on the amount of iu in each vial. I know one of the other top sources here advertises 120iu per kit and when tested it only comes out to 100iu. It's been that way for over a year now and he still does plenty of business. I think these ugl's are doing good just getting us genuine hgh at such a low price. I wasn't sure what to make of the dimmers and other proteins but if it's within the correct range that's great.
Hey brother thanks for posting +. Purity is good! and always cool to see hplc, I've heard good things about this source, much respect bro!
My pleasure brother! MGT has been good to us.
Fanboys, do the math. MGT takes $ for 102 iu per kit, but delivers less than 90 iu, that is what the test revealed.
102 is vs 90 ≈ 11 % difference
P.S. Where is the actual HPLC assay? How this paper can be trusted without the assay, testing method he used? But if you trust Janoshik, then MGT's IU is shit.
What exactly are u doing here besides making a bad name for ur brand made with a forged name of a real pharmaceutical company? Clearly u must not have shit like bills, or hobbies, or anything besides sticking ur shit in the wrong hole...
Because clearly some asshole whole literally rips his name from a worldwide pharmaceutical company... passes it off as his own knock off, version of the same thing mgt offers... so why dont u go shoot some of the ansomone u have in ur personal stash, drink a handle of vodka, and u n some comrades punch eachother in the head for the day until u think of how to launch ur "best purity brand" of hgh to eroids, to properly display your disaproval of mgt
No one is disputing the fact that the iu's came up short. Man bro, you really have it out for MGT. I literally haven't seen you involved in anything else on this site but MGT's business. Anyway, it's really none of my business so do what you like. I'm pretty sure everyone on here knows what you're about by now. Several high end labs on this board use Janoshik. Not alot of options for U.S. customers for this kind of service. Thanks for stopping by.
I thought it, you wrote it.
Thx bro!!
Thank you very much for testing brother +1! welcome to level 2!
Much appreciated brother! Glad to see you around.
Purity looks amazing. Actual IU compared to advertised IU a little low. +1 for testing brother!
You're welcome bro! I agree on the purity. Definitely was not expecting them to be less than 51iu.
Im no guru, but that looks pretty dam good to me, so tempting lol
Yes I was surprised the purity level was so high. Everything I've got from them has been super potent.
Thx bro, great service for the community.