posted Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:25
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Kig sent me out 100iu generic back tops to test gh serum levels. The pucks are pretty solid n I haven't had any itch welts. So far that's a good start for me. I pulled gh serum bloods this am. Hopefully should have them back early next week.
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Why not just do igf a week or so in? We are finding out GH serum doesn't mean shit so why waste time and money?
As darkhorse stated this is what the source wanted. He sends out tester kits which is a bit more then serum test. If they test well he'll send out a few more kits to test for igf1. I don't have baseline numbers to go off of as well to see if my levels raised at all. I personally don't test my gh serum levels. for kig it makes sense to have random people test serum
Levels for a product he's considering to add to his site
That's the problem "if they test well". The serum test means nothing so how the hell you gonna know "if they test well" without doing igf? Look into hailrazor findings and open your eyes to new better testing. It's better for us as a community. That's what this should be about.
"If they test well he'll send more kits for igf testing" I know all about hailrazors research. He's taught me a lot about gh. I've spoke To him about gh longer then you've been a member here. There's been kits out there with single digit serum #s and igf#s in the 600 that raised a red flag for people. (Test kits) It obvs wasn't hgh. I ended up picking up some of these kits thinking they could be legit igf lr3. Pulled serum n igf1 bloods on these kits. Serum levels were good igf1 showed they were bunk.
So you are saying single digit serum and high igf means bunk....... if you have been talking to.him that long you should probably revisit talking again because that makes no sense. Are you saying you have to have high serum and igf to be legit hgh? I get it keep getting your kits and testing for serum it's a great deal for ya and I don't blame you at all. Just trying to look out for the members and that's what the testing should really be about imo. Just my .02 there buddy carry on carry on.
It means it's not Legit hgh 2.3 serum 500+ igf sounds like hgh to you? Lol I think not take a look at the thread. Maybe you'll learn something.once again the source needs to check both of these things out to see if they're actually hgh.im not trying to come off like being a dick but you're not comprehending what I sayings and what the source wants. YES I will be doing igf-1 in a few weeks if they don't give red welts and have a decent serum #.
https://www.eroids.com/pics/evogene-igf-1-and-serum-results
I miss GorillaFit. He doesn't come round no mo?
That's a oldie but goldie link.
I wish I had taken a screenshot of the test, but, a Major Source here (PC) that sells their own HGH Brand had 10 different GH Samples Tested (in 2014) Evogene was one of the samples. It was legit HGH.
Here's Generators BW including elevated IGFBP3: (I think you did IGFBP3 testing also)
https://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/86841/igfbp3.jpg
His GH Serum is still elevated at 7.9ng/mL (Low to Forum Standards)
It's legit GH. My blood work was similar and Lab Test confirmed HGH. Not IGF1
Example of "Iffy" GH Serum Numbers but Elevated IGF1
https://www.eroids.com/pics/angtropin-gh-serumigf1
Low GH Serum Numbers but SIMEC confirms 17.5 IUs/vial (overdosed):
(Elevated IGF1 Serum reflects 17.5ius/vial. Not accurately, but better than GH Serum)
https://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/21800/image_70.jpg
Lab Test Confirms its legit HGH (Not IGF1 or other Pep Mix)
https://www.eroids.com/pics/angtropin-4
So you can see how Blood Work is only an "indicator".
You cannot determine Quality or Mg/IU accurately with Blood Work alone. This has been the misconception for years. Good for Generic Sources.....bad for the user
I'm really not understanding why these Generic Sources keep chasing their tails with all this vague Blood Work. Maybe it's deliberate?
US Domestic Gear source(s) are testing their powders (APIs) and finished products.
You guys need to get them on the same game. It would greatly benefit you. Maybe not as many FREE kits, but maybe better quality GH
I think I just showed in detail how Blood Work alone isn't accurate in testing for quality or "strength"
Sources using GH Serum Numbers to determine ANYTHING (quality, mg/Iu dose) other than its a growth hormone protein is just reading too much into the results
Kigs testing is flawed (sorry)
I know he's sent out Multiple DK Blue Top kits for testing with GH Serum ranging from 8-30ng/mL
It's the blood work that's not accurate, not each kit having different "Strengths"
I guess it's similar to using Testosterone Serum numbers to determine if your 250mg bottle of Test E is really 187mgs. Is that really possible with LabCorp Serum Tests? Can it determine Test E from Test P? No
Lot's of conflicting Testosterone Serums. Can Test Serum reflect concentration...yes....but not always accurately and not Mg to Mg. Same with GH Serum. My recent GH lab testing/Blood work confirms that. 23ng/mL does not mean 8Iu...41ng/mL doesn't mean 16iu.
Pay more attention to IGF1. That can reflect "dosage" or "strength". Not accurately by Mg to Mg. IGF1 is more of a reliable indicator than GH Serum
$55 Lab Corp GH Serum test cannot determine High Quality, Sh!t Quality, Somatropin, Somatrem, 176aa...etc....but a real Lab Analysis can. But it's expensive.
Also, out of the 10 GH Samples tested in 2014, 2 of the Samples were 176aa (HGH20k)
This was confirmed to me by ANGUS when he was here testing. Lots of generic sources were sending samples that were 176aa (HGH20k) This will also raise GH Serum. It's a Growth Hormone Protein....but just not Somatropin (possibly High GH Serum but low IGF1)
LINK:
http://cdn.intechopen.com/pdfs-wm/25755.pdf
This has ALWAYS been such a crazy topic!
Pharma Guys Vs Generic Guys
(I'm Legit US/China Pharma)
Back then, all we had was blood work to try and analyze the "numbers"
But with actual Lab Testing available now....maybe these Generic Sources will start using REAL Lab Testing instead....or be forced to start with members sending random samples off to REALLY see what they are pinning (hint hint)
EVEN THOUGH THE TWO GENERIC GH BRANDS I TESTED, TESTED VERY WELL....DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE SAME "BATCH" IS BEING SOLD NOW....NAW I'M SAYIN
Www.SIMEC.ch
Cotdamn that was a long response
I hope it makes sense
damn HR...u should write a fucking book or something...or start your own hgh quide site...kind of like basskilleronline...u got some knowledge brother...truly blessed to have u on eroids for free!!
I'm not trying to be an ass either. I'm interested to see what generators Sim test comes back as far as how much GH is in vial. He had a 7 serum with a 590igf and I think 9 serum with 620 igf so based on what comes back I think it will really debunk the serum test once and for all. So yeah I'm saying you can definitely have low serum but high igf and it still be legit hgh. Many have bought into the serum theory because that's what's been the norm. Once people think outside the box the findings change and new doors open. My hope is that src follow these tests so we as the consumer have better quality is all. I'm looking out for us is all. If generators test come back as its not hgh then I'll be more than happy to say I'm wrong in my belief until then I'm sticking to it is all. These conversations need to be had it will benefit everyone in the generic GH game.
I don't believe serum test should judge if it's quality hgh ether. If there's very low serum #s with crazy high igf #s I'd personally stay away from them. IgfBP-3 would be the test to get to the bottom of it all. Hailrazor had some very interesting points about igfbp-3. Igf-1 and igfbp3 would be the way to go to get to the bottom of things. Some people don't wanna buck up that kind of money on both of those bloods on generics though.
Because kig wants to see if there clean too ..welts pip too many bad sides ..you could do straight to igf1 by just running the 10ius for 10days then pull igf1 but me and the other testers are doing what he wants..also if he gets decent serums back from multiple testers he sends out more kits so i guess that way you test more than just the one kit you run 3 you get a better take on how you like them
That's great for you guys cuz it's more GH! I'm just saying based on finding GH serum means absolutely nothing on whether or not it's good GH or not. So go straight for igf and let him know about issues that may arise. I get that's not what's going to happen because you guys are just doing what you are told. I'm saying it's better for our community if he has you guys skip the bs serum test because it means NOTHING.
I think once you have established that your is in fact 191aa high quality hgh short igf1 test are perfect for qc. These kits he sending out are all different from different factories so i think hes trying to be really sure before he puts out money to buy a large order to carry on his site. I mean say one kits legit the others are so so this way your running more ....really simtec is the only way truly
I agree 100% just not with the serum is all buddy. Yeah I'm with you tho they could just send 1 kit that's great. That's why we need to push these src s to do what is right.
+1 nice pin wheel bro cant wait to see what you get
Thanks! I'd be happy with anything above 20.