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  • Swole212   •   Wed, Apr 24th, '19 21:45   •   31 replies, 477 views

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Feeling great on this cycle , any advice or critique is more than welcome. Love the eroids community all the support and great advice is awesome

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  • Nick1984's picture
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  • Nick1984
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Once u drop some of you will be able to see more from the masteron. It doesn't work extremely well unless your lean as fuck when u run it. THEN U GET THE GRANITE ,VEINY,hard muscle we all love to look at and spank to

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  • Trenorex
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Arms looking good +1

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Thanks bro!!! Been trying hard to bring my biceps up to speed with everything else

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  • Pcushion
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I fucking love masteron. I always run mast with every cycle. I prefer mast e over prop but that’s just me. Looking good man keep training and pushing hard. Mast works internally regardless of bf % but if you drop a little fat it will make you extremely grainey and hard.

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I apprciate it bro and thanks again for messaging me and helping me out i used your advice and had the sickest arm session ive had in a veryyyyy long time!!! Next cycle im going to run long esters and mast E will for sure be included !!! Ive never been a very vascular dude but when i train i have veins rolling through my chest delts and around my arms never seen that before using mast so im assuming mast Definetly improves vascularity

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Glad you enjoyed it man. I have a whole deck full of tricks when it comes to hormone supplementation and body development. Yes masteron does help vascularity. NPP is a pretty cool compound. It’s easy on the body and the phenyl-prop ester makes recovery much easier. If you watch E2 levels and dose it respectably you won’t have any issues with erections.

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Okay cool deal sounds like NPP is in my near future lol!!! Pcushion your the man , are you planning to do any competing in the future again?

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Thanks man but in reality I am just a guy with a lot of knowledge who is looking to find a more modern approach to hormone supplementation. Na no more competing for me man. I took first overall in two major NPC commotions in my mid 20’s but ran out of money to fund the endeavor. I also found it removed the fun from bodybuilding for me at least. So these days I just keep trying to take it to the next level and help anyone along the way I can.

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I agree mast is a fantastic compound one of my favorites

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X3

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  • herpjunkie111
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Looking good bro. I'm considering adding mast p into my current NPP cycle. Got it ordered. Be my first time with it and I'm sitting around 13-14% BF. Got a smart scale but I'm not sold on it's accuracy. Seems like it confuses water as BF sometimes....
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Hows the npp treating you? Ive been hearing so much good about that compound . hows it affect your libido and erections? What are the pros and cons if u dont mimd sharing please

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Don't mind sharing at all. I just started the NPP, I ran my test for 5 weeks first to let it kick in fully. But even after just a week on the NPP my appetite is up, lifts are higher and weight that was extremely heavy feels lighter and easier to control, and pumps are extreme and last all day. Libido is great too. I'm managing my estro very carefully though.

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  • Ace Ventura
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I don’t have any advice, but that’s an underrated cycle. I’ve been gravitating towards simpler cycles and gentler compounds that cause fewer side effects, if any, and test p/mast p was one of my more enjoyable runs. Felt good, horny, good solid lean gains, virtually zero sides, and the mast helped control estro. Good shit, playa

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Thanks man means alot coming from you!! I agree i think mast doesnt get enough credit. I hesr so often you wont see much if anything unless used under 10 percent BF or using it for precontest purposes. I am no where near 10 percent and its helped my strength and i look full all day long. Not to mention my pumps are unreal.

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  • Swole212
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Ohh yea and my gyno is from puberty its awful :/

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What I see is that only the nipples are bigger then what they should. It is typically what I can get using 19-nor compounds, Nandrolone and Trenbolone. A blood work could probably reveal if you have prolactin in excess. I suggest you give a try to Cabergoline (anyways if it doesn't work it can be still be used for other purposes ...). My personal experience is that even if the nipples already got bigger because of 19-nor compounds (so prolactin excess) Cabergoline can reverse it quickly. I would be interesting to know if it doesn't influence other biological parameters in your body.

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Very interesting, ive never touched a 19nor brother my nipples got puffy as shit when i hit 14/15 and got worse as i got older, could i take caber without being on a 19nor? Is there dangers of dropping prolactin too low like the problems when e2 is too low?

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Estrogen fuels prolactin. Without him taking a 19-nor he wouldn’t have prolactin issues. Prolactin is the hormone that cause lactation in females and makes. Prolactin it’s self does not cause enlargement of he nipples. That’s an estrogen problem and it’s falls under the gynecomastia category.

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I am not convinced because it's not the experience I had. Before I started to use 19-nor, with AAS such as dbol, testosterone ... my breast could enlarge except my nipples. When I started to use nandrolone, I have seen my nipples growing. A little of cabergoline or bromocriptine ... and I saw them deflate quickly. That's why I believe that it's the high prolactin that can make my nipples grow, or I don't understand then why cabergoline or bromocriptine can fix it.

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Estrogen is still your root cause. I would be willing to bet that your estrogen, and prolactin were both extremely high. They exaggerate the effects of one another. I would be willing to bet you had what’s called Galactorrhea and the fluid associated with this condition wants to be released and the nipples are the place this naturally happens. Due to the build up your nipples became larger. You solved the high prolactin levels with bromo or caber and the Galactorrhea went away and the nipples became smaller. Nevertheless if estrogen was in check the prolactin would not been able to cause Galactorrhea from the start. Nipple sensitivity is caused by increased estrogen, when a girl hits puberty she develops breast and the nipples also get larger. All this happens without prolactin being very prominent. Once a woman has a child prolactin sky rockets and she produces milk at which point the nipples become even larger but they do not stay this way... Estrogen grows the nipples and fluid build up can cause it to swell or stretch.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/galactorrhea/symptoms-causes/syc-20350431

Also check out the link I posted on my comment to the other guy. I hope the helps you along.

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Interesting...Thank you for the link. ++

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Anytime my brother.

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As far as I know it's the high level of prolactin which is problematic. You will probably have to run a blood work soon, so why not testing prolactin level ? Now I can be wrong, but each time I had a breast which looks like yours it was because I had high prolactin because of a 19-nor.

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Progesterone and prolactin causes Gyno under the areola. Estrogen causes Gyno under the nipple. Also caber doesn’t reverse Gyno. It’s just lowers prolactin. You gotta be careful when taking caber as well. It’s extremely strong. And should only be taken if blood works shows necessary. It has been known to cause DAWS. Better to take nolvadex and Masteron off cycle in low doses. For reversing Gyno. There’s really good info on this in the forums section. If you go to my profile and click on favs, it should be under there. It was posted a while ago by iron_monk.

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You are correct when you say caber, prami, and bromo are serious medications. You are absolutely correct about labs showing these medications are needed. Try researching things for yourself though. Not everything found on forums is correct. Breast tissue development whether is under the nipple or areola is all caused by estrogen or progesterone. Prolactin does not cause gyno and can only effect tissue that’s already primed by estrogen or progesterone.

https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/120858-overview#a5

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My nipples are just puffy lol not a huge deal to me i tinker with the idea of competing in BB if i ever get to that point ill have the gyno surgery once i have extra cash to do so

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You probably don’t need surgery man. There are protocols for reversing gyno before surgery. Just make sure you watch your E2 levels. Your body seems to be extremely sensitive.

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Very sensitive which is was my main reason in adding mast to my cycles aromasin makes me feel suicidal mentally, i got itchy nipps and some signs of high e2 on just 50mg/ day of prop!!! It sucks!!! I have a good buddy who can run a gram of test a week and no probs what so ever wtf lol!!!!!!

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I worked for a guy who could run upwards of a gram and not have any issues either. I personally have never gone above 400mg but I don’t have any issues. I run mast with every cycle and I know that helps. From time to time I do run aromasin at 25mg eod but it’s main purpose for me is binding up SHBG. I am also not very good at keeping it on hand though. I have been out for like 3 months now.