Got these bad boys from best. To get the levels of prop built up and to test pip i pinned 1ml in each delt yesterday before i trained. Went and trained legs and some back, and ended up doing a light shoulder workout also. No pip during training, and zero now. Ive had some test blends that would prevent me from training that muscle that i pinned for 2 days or so. Not the case here. Oil is thin and smooth and boxes look badass. Very " pharma" if you get what im saying. Also have scratch off verification numbers also. I didnt bother doing that because i dont have a doubt in my mind that it wont check out. May do it layer for fun. Anyway. Ill be back for more if this gear is as good as it looks.