-3 PIP or reaction? Ultima Enan 250 (Test E)
Im getting hard red lumps/spots/welts whatever you wanna call it. in my injection sites 24-48hrs post inj. first one was the morning after (i inj at night) 2nd day showed up after 2 nights. Im doing everything right in terms of sterile inj, small amnt 0.1ml ED, slow inj, subQ with 27" insulin needle.
The reason Im worried is 2 fold.
Firstly my product is Ultima pharmaceuticals Test E 250, which is clear in all its pics (and even on forum reviews of the product) as it uses MCT oil. But mine came in yellow.
Secondly its the exact same reaction I got to using generic HGH, I switched to pharma grade HGH and never got those reactions again.
And ik ppl are gonna be like just go IM but I feel like thats just avoiding the issue as theres likely still a reaction happening its just deep so you dont see it show up.
(pic makes it seem like nothing but its worse irl, swollen, red and painful to the touch)
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I know people do it, but I would never subq any oil. If I were you I would switch to Test Suspension if you want to continue SubQ-ing. Your body may just be rejecting the oil, and having difficulty breaking it down.
And by the way, I’ve run several compounds by this brand, and the only one that wasn’t completely clear, was their Tren.
I've never heard of anyone sub q test suspension.
Some TRT doctors tell clients to always do sub q. I’ve never have had any issues with sub q. I’m guessing his oil isn’t breaking down or to much BA or BB in the blend. “Oil wasn’t completely clear” I’m guessing brewing is off a bit and not filtered good enough.
That's correct. Sub q is used for trt by TRT Doctors. Some bloods actually show good levels. If it is a pharmaceutical testosterone, specifically test c, I don't see an issue. Now personally I prefer IM.
Now sub q for a cycle is a little odd to me.
did u not read. Im doing 0.1ml ed Thats trt dosages lmao (generous trt but definitely not a full blown cycle)
Was I talking to you or about you? No so it's obvious that you can't read. And it's quit obvious you don't know what you're doing. If you had issues after first sub q injection why would you inject again and again? That's dumb. And you keep crying about the color of the damn oil so it's clear you don't need to be doing gear period.
RustyhookerPosted clearly below is my cited med forum on subq. Youre trolling bullshit for what? Youre wrong so take the pain or kick rocks
Next time ya wanna act like a complete jackass....don't. Keep your bullshit to yourself. You too old to be acting childish. You're so not worth my time I promise lol. Troll on ...Night
RustyhookerWas trying to talk to the op....clicked wrong one.
Ok..fair enough
RustyhookerGuys trollin hard for freebies. Using poor pin method to push source for more....my opinion.
Lol clearly you are trolling now. Clearly no one was even talking to you. Your'e 60 so please act your age. We're not cool and you get no more attention from me ok? Goodnight hater ...peace!
TricepatopsBecause testosterone oil isn't made to be SubQ. It says IM use on all pharm test. Don't get why people use this crappy option. There is a reason it say IM USE ONLY. The reaction is the Test oil isn't made for SubQ. Wish people would stop saying it is.
Subq is a idiotic method of using a medicine designed for intramuscular injection. I've said this 1000 times and I'll say it 1000 more
I agree man
I 100% agree with this ^^^^, because im old school. Never understood why guys would go the lengths to cook and smoke yayo when they could just easily sniff it up their noses.
If you sniff long enough, sinus problems becomes an issue. Deviated septum and all... And nostrils no longer is an option. Especially if you get that stepped on yayo that has impurities of all kinds. Gotta find another route to enjoy the drug. Not speaking from experience and might be wrong. LoL
Well i know someone who might know someone who says that can be right lol
Alot of people just get bad pip and swelling/bumps from test e in general(me included) that's why I try to just use test c, alot of people only use test c because of this issue. And as far as the yellow tint I'm gonna say it's a raw issue because this is becoming increasingly popular even on good brand names, just as simon stated below. And if your gonna try Im shots try to stick with the butt area cuz that's the only place I can use test e without terrible pip. Good luck bud.
Yeah thats what ive resorted to doing, even ventroglute get me pip. Will have to look into test C by the looks of it
I agree. Test E will definitely give some folks pip so I don't know why some narrow minded guys don't seem to think so lol. I repeat test e is known to give some pip even at 250mg/ml.
RustyhookerSubq on ugl.....smdh.....man up.
rustyhooker the typa guy to tell someone to do 500 test and stfu for his first cycle --. u gotta stay uptodate with the science if you gonna go arnd disliking posts mate.
RustyhookerToo dumb to read science. Negged ya again
https://www.eroids.com/forums/general/general-talk/subq-trt-not-a-new-sc...
It's wild cause OP claims to have degree in science and is always spouting researching science, yet he makes forums like these and along with the test color post about this very same brand he is complaining about now. If he suspected that oil was rancid, which he found out from his research....why would OP inject rancid oil? SubQ at that..... Also claims to have pinned .1ml.....that even possible? Must've had a hella air in that syringe. Im not all up there and never claimed to be the brightest, but if I suspect rancid or questionable oil....onlyplace it's going is the trash. Not IM and certainly not SubQ. Some individuals just aren't built to be doing AAS and unfortunately find out the hard way. Good luck to you Jack
i dont get ur point abt not being able to pin 0.1ml, are u retarded or something?
So if i dont listen to yall im a retard and if i do im a retard. u can never win in these forums.
Many people pin subq with just as much success as IM. It results in much more stable levels due to the slower absorption, which is exactly why i do it along with the frequent injections to avoid sides.
I take a preventative approach, not treat it after its already developed.
if yall wanna act like your smarter than me sure go for it but experts in the field all back what im saying
You can look at Derek MPMD or Vigorous steve vids on it since your clearly too braindead to do the research yourselves.
@Rustyhooker as far as i can see ur post ur advocating subq for trt dosages which is exactly what im doing, in fact my inj are even less volume than urs.
Like I said, never claimed to be the brightest. And again, is your budget super tight enough to where you'd still inject rancid oil? You did research and came to the conclusion that the oil was rancid. Then you inject it anyway. Why? Then here you are throwing up another crazy ass post. Why inject oil that you thought to be rancid? I might not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but at least I'm IN the shed. Cheers
RustyhookerYou clearly didnt READ that forum or you wouldnt subq ugl. Sounds like just trolling.
RustyhookerSearching for freebies or attention maybe. Odd for sure
I’ve been noticing reliable brands having different color variations with test of all Substances. It might be Raws . However, do you believe you’d experience this swelling had you gone IM?
Thats exactly my point tho. I may try IM in the upcoming days and let you know. but as i said i feel as to going IM is just masking the issue. if this reaction isnt normal then it shouldnt be happening in the first place.
Try IM before you criticize the product because that’s what it was actually meant for.
Is ya budget tight or something? You made a post about this very same brand and questioned oil color. You came to the conclusion that oil was rancid. Why in the hell would you inject rancid oil? Now I'm not saying its rancid. You already know my opinion on that from my replies to your oil color post. But if you genuinely thought oil was rancid.... Why still use it? Bro just go to a legit TRT and let Dr. be in charge of all matters related. You just show up on appointment date and get your injections. Do it yourself ain't for you. Wish you luck man
TricepatopsWhat you getting is normal for SubQ I tried it to see what these guys were talking about and that shit hurt and lasted for 3 weeks until it fully went away. IM won't mask it but also Test E for many people causes pip where cyp won't. I can attest to that. Test e pharm causing me pip where test cyp doesn't and I can do 400mgs of pharm at once with no pip.
CloUSMCUltima test e gives me terrible PIP. I’m using ultima tren now and it doesn’t give me pip. But the testosterone gave me the flu and shit
thats interesting. most of the reviews ive seen ppl say its the smoothest they've injected with no pip. I do not have any flu symptoms. I do have to blow my nose alot but that is normal for me so idk if it was the test or not.