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+ 8 Orange tops iron lion igf-1 test second test with new numbers

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So i runned 6iu for 6 weeks here are the new results a little disappointed...... maybe its of cause of shipping that the hgh degrade i dont know currently using nothing else but hgh starting an new run soon .......Iron lion blood test
Shooted 6iu in the morning sober on empty stomach
Pulled bloods 1hour 30 minutes later

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Update : injecting 6iu daily now for 4 weeks after that pulling bloods

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DeeMan's picture

My man Bundlz. You got me thinking about this src's GH. I'll probably run at half your dosage though. Honestly 6 IU that you are at is optimal. We shall see bro. Keep us updated. +1 for bloods

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6iu was the highest I could tolerate, anything higher and I turn into a zombie all day long.

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Just got this new batch and was hoping for an improvement from the orange tops I got last bogo in December. 3 iu got me in the middle high 200's from that batch. I'll have to wait and see where 6iu daily gets me in a couple months from now. I'll be dosing 6 iu with 500 test/mast/DHB, 3 iu split. Probably dropping generic GH after that to see a baseline since I never got one. Plan to experiment in the future with Lr3 and hopefully pharma, one day. I will say the sleep and recovery improvements from the orange tops so far have been worth it even if my igf isn't sky high.

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Yes mine 2 but my shape is nice i keeplosing fat en building up muscle if i wasnt 32 old i would be in compettion category 6.6% but because im over 30 am calculated @ 8% fat do you sweat alot when you sleep from this hgh?

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No I don't sweat much at all actually. I've only noticed night sweats when on cycle.
I will say whenever I raise my dose with orange tops I do get quite a bit of numbness in my hands and fingers. Fat loss and maintenance of leanness has also been great with these.

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The same here fatloss and leanness are top notch

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Ok next round i pull bloods later rusty .

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I shot 6iu before bloods doesnt that number need to be around 500 600?

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Makwa's picture

You have to remember that IGF doesn't increase in a linear fashion indefinitely. There comes a point of diminishing returns which is different for everyone based on how they convert the GH. Pin 6iu for the next two weeks and retest then you will see how high your IGF levels are at that dose. I would expect around 450 or so. 500 on 6iu would be really good if the stars are all aligned and you are converting really well. Right now your steady state levels are the result of pinning 4iu consistently and not representative of a 6iu slug.

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Thanks makwa iI will follow your advice and retest within 2 weeks thanks!

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Makwa's picture

Would also be helpful to know what other compounds you are on. Any heavy DHT's like mast in particular. There is also some anecdotal evidence suggesting that elevated liver enzymes affect GH conversion to IGF and low estro may also affect IGF score.

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Did not know this about mast and liver enzymes. FWIW my bloods I got on 3 iu =267 I was cruising 200 mast e and also my AST was high. Interesting.

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Makwa's picture

That is not bad for 3iu. Helpful to have a baseline to compare it to though.

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Im 6 weeks off oils i the first 4 weeks i used hcg each 5days 2500iu i also use aromasin 10 mg morning 10 mg afternoon and 20 mg nolva before bed

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SuperBrish's picture

I could be wrong but nolva does have some influence on lowering igf 1. Might be worth testing when off nolva or skipping few days before the test also.

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Makwa's picture

That will be a nice comparison.

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How long have you been pinning 6iu?

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No im pinning 4iu each day 2 before training 2 before bed
I pinned 6iu before the bloodtest 1hour 30minutes on empty stomach

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Makwa's picture

Your IGF is showing your results of 4iu since that has been what you have using long term, not 6iu, which is actually pretty good. Pinning a large slug and testing right afterwards is how you test for GH serum not IGF.

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Ok well honestly i feel good and my shape is good i told it to ironlion rep also he asked me to retest it ... For the record im not complaining or asking a refund Biggrin

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thanks for testing our gh and posting it honestly to help us improving our quality and service ,
we will offer you 100$ as credit store, you can use it at any time, thanks, Smile

Ohyo2247's picture

thats pretty disappointing man id contact them ,how long ago did you purchace them ?

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Like 1 month ago

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Ohyo2247's picture

damn that sucks hope things get taken care of for you

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I dont have a baseline because im already using hgh for a long time now.... so i dont have nothing to stand on .... + That NGako kid tested good ornsomething on the same batch

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Ohyo2247's picture

odd how difrent people react ,ever thought about trying the greytops? i used a well known domestic 96% purity hgh before they left eroids and switched to the greys wich are better i guess and have had even better results, i dont have any tests to show for it but the side effects came on alot stronger when i did switch, i can only guess its because they are better. idk though i could be wrong

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I have 2 packs of grey tops waiting for me Biggrin

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Ohyo2247's picture

nice , hopfully you like them i have 4 on the way 5 stockpiled in the fridge

bundlz's picture

Thats a nice stash brother Biggrin i still have 4 in total enjoy !

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Roider007's picture

Would have expected alot higher for 6ius bud.

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bundlz's picture

I taught also about 600 :/

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Roider007's picture

As mak mentioned above its not to bad if it reflects 4ius daily it may show higher in next test tho if you keep consistant on 6iu daily we shall see.

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bundlz's picture

Yes starting by tommorow pinning 6iu

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