I have 2 kits left of a batch that I saw zero results from. I am planning on getting baseline bloods drawn and then after 4 weeks because I am certain that my batch is bunk. I had amazing results in 2016 with the same brand, but was very disappointed with this batch. I purchased 10 kits from the guy and his response was that he would send me 2 kits. very unhappy after spending 2300 on this shit.

I believe his stuff is hot and miss. I’ve had a few batches that saw amzing results and some that had no effect. I was running his stuff for almost a year.

1, i'm 100% sure that its legit and good quality, i do the analysis very often, specially for the recent 4 months, its overdosed 27iu per iu.

2, i asked u to make blood test on gh serum and IGF1 together, but u test only IGF1. sometimes, the liver cant convert gh to IGF1, or some medcine could effect IGF1 level ,etc,of course, maybe its ruined during the transport or maybe its issue from gh itself, everything is possible.

3, i asked u more than 10 times to send back the gh u dont use yet, and i give u full refund. but u refused everytime, u insist that u wanna keep the gh, and just want full refund. but think about my situation:
1, its bulk order, i have very low profit, u keep gh, i give u full refund,i lose big money.
2, if it doesnt work for u, why u insist that u wanna keep all gh ?
3,u send me back the gh, i can make gh analysis, and i will make blood test by myself and my stuffs, i will check whats the issue.

ps: not meant to u, imagine,if the issue from the client himself, but he keeps the gh, and i must give full refund, or if one client is not honest,he didn't run gh,but run blood test,then keep gh and get full refund. so pls think about the source, we just ask u to send back the gh,and give u full refund, then drama is over. thats it.

thanks for understanding.

I appreciate the share but he is refusing to provide the batch numbers of all the kits he has used he is claiming are bunk.

I've asked him now 3 times to provide the batch numbers so others could check on their experiences and/or even potential blood work or hplc done in comparison but that can only be done if he passes on the batch numbers.

This has been avoided now twice on the SI page as he gives the most vague answers which makes me question whether or not any GH was used much less the source he is claiming has bunk stuff.

We all know the variables and why bloodwork is not the best option (although appreciated when done by those who back all their shit up too) and when someone is avoiding giving actual batch numbers to reference it really seems shady.

For me, it holds no weight if you cannot provide the batch numbers so we can see if other tests have been done with the same kits and/or others who may have them in stock to see how their experience goes and maybe get testing done too.

I always appreciate seeing blood work but HPLC testing is the one that will often make the difference for me to formulate an opinion if needed since every person is going to react very differently to any one compound.

Provide the batch numbers to the kits you claim are bunk please so that we can be do additional research to verify your claims.

Thanks for testing. That’s a shame. Used to be good stuff ++ for testing

Shitty results usually indicate a shitty product.

Thanks for your time, money, and effort!!

I would be curious to see what kind of numbers you would get running a different brand gh. ++ for testing.

+1 for bloods mate

I would never send anything back through the mail to a source. Send him a picture of them all smashed up with a hammer. Doesn't really matter though, I wouldn't be using anymore of it with results like that.

Wow add insult to injury, someone negged you. I gave you one back brother.

Hope all goes well for you anyways and effort with the bloods

I really appreciate you sharing your experience! There could be so many factors for this. But thank you for trying to tell us all what happened. Much respect. Editing your post was perfect. +1 don't let this ruin your day. I believe you have good gh just not maybe exact dose, maybe bad batches, and igf1 has desensitved in your body. Pull a gh serum with your igf1 number next time u run bloods.