posted Sun, 02/25/2018 - 00:15
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+ 13 MY EXPERIENCE WITH GH "GODTROPIN" : ALL BLOODS TEST !!
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I am experiencing this gh since June 2017
You see all the evolution of my IGF1 and first gh serum (10ui am fast and 3h hours later)
Baseline : 169
It increased very slowly to 188 after 2 months at 4uis
Then raised to 325 after 3 months and a half at 6uis.
Drop to 7.5uis for a month with batch underdosed then back to 6uis for a month. IGF1 result : 192
Wrote to the guy who swear gh is top quality, and asked me to do another test 3 weeks later and if it came back bad, will refund me 7 kits (i got all the conversations to prove all i say)
Last result :;: IGF 1 : 175
Of course now he asked me to send him all kits i have to have refund which i refuse because it was no part of the deal...i have no more any trust on him
Ordered from:
- Bookmark
- 17
- 4
Seriously? Then you clearly are not willing to do what’s required to make it work to it’s fullest. Sounds like you wanted a get in shape fast in a vial. Why even buy it?
If doing it at 4am is working gh to its fullest, then why is it prescribed by doctors to inject before sleep?
I already took hgh in the past with LOT of results and no needed to wake up at 4am.
I am an experienced bodybuilder and know even more experienced and no one take his shot so early...
Not to disagree but im going to disagree. Timing of when you take gh is up to the individual. Most, including this fella should understand that its pinned before eating and best upon waking with time before ingesting any carbs to get the optimal effects. But, i dont believe that hgh as a compound is effective to the fullest only at 4 am. Lol its about adjusting your injection to your lifestyle. Hell i used to inject gh at 8 am and wait before i ate. Maybe i misunderstood your suggestion to him, but being that hes been dosing it for months and bloods have shown less than optimal levels indicative of pharma quality gh i fail to see 4 am being the cause?
But to be fair there are many factors to consider,
1. Is his liver impaired from running orals?
2. Is he waiting to eat?
3. Is he running any anabolics known to throw igf?
4. Is he using serms that may hinder his level?
5. Is this batch accurately dosed?
6. How long was it en route? Was it exposed to extreme weather?
Many factors as said above by ranger. Perhaps its something for him to consider.
Is his liver impaired from running orals?
I am taking any orals
Is he waiting to eat?
Near 20- 30 minutes minimum
Is he running any anabolics known to throw igf?
Was on test Bold cycle
Is he using serms that may hinder his level?
Only taking proviron
Is this batch accurately dosed?
Who know?....
How long was it en route? Was it exposed to extreme weather?
Only during summer it maybe affected by high temperatures. But just read recently that gh still in powder would resist a lot to hot temperature
I got 3 or 4 different batch all along my experience
Wtf you won't send them back.
You must have money to waste then send them to me with receipt would be great and I will send you the refund.
How many time will i be asked that same question ???
Too lazy to read all the anwsers ?
Haha nah just sounds shady
Has any comapny ever asked you to send something back..
Dominick77NEVER been asked by any reputable and legitimate company to send ANYTHING back. I've only had 2 issues with products, (broken vials/amps, wrong compounds sent) but both times they just reshipped, plus added few extras for the inconvenience. They did ask for a photograph of broken products, but other than that nothing else. Any source asking for the products back, I'd be leary.
Thanks bro
Definitely understand what your saying but these bloods to my understanding do not show it's totally bunk.If the source is the manufacturer of this product yes maybe entitled as some sources will be spending money on bunk so they them selfs have been scammed.sure send them a refund but just sounds sketchy if you have spent a load of wonga and will not send the product back imo but each to there own.
Dominick77Understandable as well....
Yup and I have and will do if the same happens again
So you now have his address. Doesnt sound smart to me. I hope evrything work out for everyone
Nah you don't need to you can get them dropped to deliver boxes and collect the law could be watching thats the risk for the source to weigh out.
Or the source could have a lot of friends who will do it for him
X2 I hope they work it out.
Maybe I’m wrong here but that last paragraph he wrote makes the whole thing look shady, why wouldn’t you send it back if your not going to use it. Just my opinion.
How much IGF1 have you taken? Doses?? During this period? Before? Gosh I get it your pissed but without a gh serum with your igf1 and tell if us about straight igf1 use we can all be here for months guessing.
Do you have any before and after photos of yourself
Or describe the results that you did see after spending all this money. I know nothing about hgh cause its to expensive with all my family expenses.. just trying to figure out if it might be dorth it oneday
Hey buddy have you at any time during these tests..using the injectable igf1??? If you have your body has become desensitized because of slamming pure igf1 in your body. Let us know please and I feel your anger.
I used igf1 lr3 alternatively with peg mgf from july to october. 4weeks each 2 times
Thanks for posting your Bloods Al. I think Pale brings up a valid point. Were there any environmental changes that could've effected the product? Also, are you cycling any other substances that could cause your IGF to fluctuate. Maybe even check the batch # to see if it's possible you received a split batch.
This stuff was tested recently by a member, and while the vials came back underdosed by about 4.6iu, the content was on point.
Interesting. His version : "i just got the analysis for those batch, i sent 5 different vials, average dose is 26.6iu.
I may used 3 at least different batch
I was on test boldenone cycle
Will not take that risk.
Lost, customs, seizures are part of the game
I dont send anything to him before getting the money
Thank you for sharing your experience! I think the way you go about testing the hgh can be meaningful to evaluate quality of product and help everyone!
Thanks bro!
Bigal I'm with you on this one. Any time a vendor of a product screws me over once, that's the end of that relationship. We aren't talking about some bunk protein powder that costs $30 at a local nutrition store.... This is a really expensive item that should be up to quality with no excuses. Good for you brotha to test out the GH and find out the true quality of it. Thank you for doing so
Thanks bro
I am curious how your kits were handled. Funny at first you are showing nice results and then it steadily went down.
We’ve been through this before Pale where IGF1s were kinda weak but when the actual vial was tested it just proved using blood work wasn’t always the best method to show “quality”......especially a synthetic protein....that’s not how Big Pharma goes about testing
Plus....the obvious.....GH Serum was elevated, yet he says the product is bunk....that’s just completely incorrect
Only proper way is to test the actual vial (batch) in question.....might be surprised at the results
There maybe some vials good and others bad.
Anyway after this long expérience my igf1 after been raised To 325 shut down to amlost my baseline
Suddenly my body stop converting gh To igf1
What about my wife i didnt mention bout Her but she took 2uis for 4 months and her igf1 was 145.
She also got a problem with her liver...
GH Serum shows elevation.....so, it’s not bunk
And while IGF1 Serum is a bio marker showing the “effectiveness” of the product.....you really need to test the vial itself when it comes to synthetic proteins
Lots of other factors can cause low to no IGF1 elevation which has been proven here at eRoids many times using Blood Work/Lab Analysis comparison
I’m not taking Matt’s side.....I’m just stating facts as I’ve been down this road before
Send a vial out for testing or take Matt’s compensatin proposal.....that’s about all you can do
Can you tell me more about other factors that can case low To no igf1 élévation. I am really interested about that
My wife got also a poor igf1 number after 4months at 2uis everdyday..only 145 and she took only this hgh
Have you and the wife had success (elevated IGF1) with a different brand maybe? Something to compare to
No but we will very soon.
I will keep posted
I agree completely, as well as it just seems some people can not produce a good (IGF)number no matter how much GH they pump into themselves, whether it be serostim, hyges, or a generic blue top. They will never find the number they seek due to their bodies unable to convert the GH to IGF.
In my opinion there is still a lot of good GH going around so get it while its good. I picked up 2 kits of GT this week, might have to do some testing myself (:
I came at Matt hard (when he first came to eRoids) when we had a similar situation with IGF1s .
But when a vial was tested it came back as legit and properly dosed. So I’ve learned testing the product itself is best.
And you are correct....legit generics, Pharma, China Pharma have shown some low IGF1s at times even though we know the products to be absolutely legit.
There’s been some inconsistencies with GT (as with most generics)....but it’s never tested bunk or anything other than real rHGH
It would be cool to have one of these vials tested
Since having legit pens(nords) for about a year and then switching to humatrope for the better part of 8 months I have literally just been going off feel.
I know when I am off and I know what I am supposed to feel. Honestly the stuff Matt has, lets just say, has been good to me so when I see posts like this I have a lot of questions but I will just leave that to everyone else. Like I said I have just got in 2 kits, and I plan on testing my numbers in the near future. He has been getting a lot of hate lately I am not sure why.
Dont have any explanation about that
I just use them as they should be.
I got all typical sides bout gh at beginning when igf1 were around 325 and it disappeared really quickly
I also took igf1 lr3 and peg mgf alternatively when igf1 was "High" 325 with 6uis day ..
Why wouldn’t you send him the kits back if there bunk? If he’s offering to replace them you should send the old ones back. There’s nothing unreasonable about that...
I dont trust him anymore
He refund then i ll send back
He is a full of bullshit.
He just told me to do test again and if it came back he gives his word to full refund without asking any return ..
Look if your not happy with it send it back. Wanting a refund and not wanting to send it back looks shady.
That is your opinion
He never told me to resend him anything when he said if blood comes back he ll refund.
Thats when i send him the blood work that he first talk about that
For last time i ll not send any cents for shipping nor taking any risks of seizure.
Plus he told me that he ll take in charge the bloods test costs which he didnt do also
I to had issues with this source when I first used this product. I had a bad reaction and red welts. But after an igf1 test at 478 and an hplc test showing it is 97% pure and a little under dosed I have to conclude it’s the real deal. Injection timing and liver function play a huge role in converting to igf1.
Also your situation reminds me of an immune response. Like your body is attaching antibodies to the exogenous gh rendering it inert. It happens with pharma grade as well but more often as the impurities gets worse.
Ahhhh...very cool
It’s called Protein Immunogenicity
And you are absolutely correct. It can possibly occur with Legit Pharma products which is one reason why IGF1 Serum is monitored during aGHD therapy
Immunogenicity of protein therapeutics
https://www.fda.gov/downloads/drugs/guidances/ucm338856.pdf
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immunogenicity
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3062386/
Those are some good links. Most wont ever do this much research into hgh.