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  • csgkvothe   •   Thu, Sep 5th, '19 10:57   •   9 replies, 482 views

NOTE: Simple Mass Spectrometry is not enough to determine dosage and purity of tested substance.
Tests done with GC/MS, LC/MS/MS or HPLC methodes are considered much more reliable!

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Been on Mister Raise Gear now since March. The first 8 weeks of this 12 week blast has been as follows:

1cc Sustanon 250 EoD
2cc NPP 150 EoD
50mcg Quantron IGF1 LR3 every night before bed

The last 4 weeks I added:
25mg DBol and 10mg Halotestin 4x Week on compound movement/core days for the intensity boost.

Labwork:

Yes, I am a Type 1 Diabetic, have been for 35 years and on an insulin pump/continuous glucose monitor for 12 years. My A1C is a bit elevated, yes I know. I work on it every day, but some days are better than others.

As you can see in the labwork, the DBol and Halo has beat my liver up a bit, so it's dropped for a while to let my liver recover. My liver support protocol has always been 600mg NAC 2x a day (morning and night) and a Himalayan Liver Care (Liv52) every morning. I'm adding an extra one at night now for the next month until ALT/AST is back normal again.

Previous runs with heavy Proviron and Anavar did not elevate my ALT/AST at all. The low dose DBol and Halo did. Lesson learned there.

Now, for the Quantron IGF1 LR3. My baseline IGF1 level runs from 100-110 when not on anything. I'm not really concerned with the "lowish" reading of 233 because I'm seeing it in action from my insulin sensitivity alone. I've had to reduce my basal and bolus rates of insulin quite a bit as a result of the Quantron IGF1 LR3. I don't care that my IGF1 is at 233, the high side of normal, because of the results I'm seeing in glucose sensitivity and knowing my baseline is a bit less than half of this reading. I'm able to eat more and take less insulin to maintain somewhat "normalish" glucose levels. I do have bad days sometimes that cause my A1C to read a bit higher than normal.

Thank you for your top notch products and service Mister Raise! I'm with you for the long haul, my friend.

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  • REBUILD's picture
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  • REBUILD
  • 2 months ago

I'll second on the TUDCA recommendation. Stuff is amazing.

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  • Mr.Raise
  • 2 months ago

Thanks for sharing sir

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  • Dope
  • 2 months ago

As dacky said ... igflr3 , des , mecasermin and increlex not show on igf 1 test

Check morning fasted glucose to see if legit igf

Respect

Dope

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  • @Dope

Thanks, Dope, but I know it's good. I've had to seriously cut my insulin doses back quite a bit, and that's what I'm after, the improved insulin sensitivity.

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Happy to help my brother !

That there is how you know igf is legit !

Improved slin sensivity is the name of the game !

Glad its working and you dialed in your slin doses

Respect

Dope

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You might want to consider taking TUDCA when running harsh orals like Halo in the future. NAC might be fine with anavar and proviron but not so much when taking Halo and dbol together.

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  • Dacky
  • 2 months ago

You do know that IGF-1 LR3 will not raise IGF-1 on blood work so something else has gotten your number up considerably from baseline l.

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  • @Dacky

Hmmmm, did not know that at all, but I wasn't too concerned with the number to begin with as I was getting exactly what I wanted from it. Could it possibly be the higher dose of NPP causing the IGF1 boost? As always, I really appreciate your input and thoughts.

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Know for a fact that testosterone will increase IGF-1. Your doing about 875mg wk. This study clearly shows it raises IGF-1. Throw in the Durabolin at over a gram and and that 133 increase over IGF-1 base is very probable as Nandrolone has been shown to increase IGF-1 mRNA in rats.
So to answer you question it's the combination of T and Durabolin causing the increase.

See Table 2. At 600mg IGF-1 increased 77 which was the mean. The actual increase was 65-90 from low to high above base of all test subjects.

https://www.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/ajpendo.2001.281.6.e1172#T2