posted Thu, 06/19/2014 - 11:03
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Part of this lab test that couldn't fit in the pic are these info:
Luteinizing Hormone
LH <0.2 LOW 1.7-8.6 mIU/mL
FSH, Serum
FSH <0.2 LOW 1.5-12.4 mIU/mL
Estradiol
Estradiol 150.0 HIGH 7.6-42.6 pg/mL
Current cycle (3 WEEKS IN) is: Test P 50 EOD/ Tren A 75 ED/ Adex .25 ED/ and Liquid Prami .25/ Every night
Cycle prior to this current one: EQ 500 Weeks 1-8/ Test E 750 Weeks 1-14/ Mast E 400 Weeks 8-14/ Adex .25 ED/ Pct Nolva 40/30/20/20
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My biggest concern is your platelets. That jig level puts you at risk for blood clots. You need to come off everything ASAP IMO and get those retested. My concern would be that you have an I diagnosed myeloproliferative disorder. Stop the gear, get a repeat CBC and if your platelets are still that high you need to see a Hematologist,
Holy shit I didn't see the 18k white count . Bro please get that and your platelets followed up in ASAP..
beyondimportsMega t covered most everything. Since your white blood cells are so elevated it looks like you're dealing with some infection. Is all your gear swole oil?
GoBigOrGoHome101No, i haven't even run his stuff yet. I'm still waiting for it to land here, i got some from him on the 7th of this month but because of some payment confusions etc i'm still waiting... Here's the thing bro, and i think this might actually cover a lot of the stuff that i've been so concerned about, the prop i'm using is from a co-worker of mine whom i trusted, and here is where it gets tricky.... When he sold that shit to me, none of em has the plastic cap cover! And so i asked, why doesn't it has the cap thinggy? And he said well it's because i got it bulk from a source overseas, it was stealth pack and i transfer them all to sterilized bottles bla bla bla BUT EVERYTHING should be good, matter of fact i'm on it right now and never felt the same.. So being the newbie, dummy and trusting person that i am, i pulled the trigger and got 6 vials and it was dirt cheap so i was like heck yeah! But now it's starting to all make fucken sense! Here is what i'm gonna do, i will try to get a hold of a prop elsewhere pronto while waiting for swole's and toss all this crap shit i got from my co-worker.. Or maybe return all of em to him, i can't be mad as this is my own fault for getting it... And Tren Ace also came from the same guy but this was from a lab called "phantom" did a research about it and cannot find anything, good news about the tren though is that it has the plastic cap cover and everything... If i can't get a hold of prop tomorrow and if Swole's gear doesn't land by early next week, i'm stopping this current cycle, pct and regroup... Would you strongly advice clomid as part of my pct bro? So far i have nova only and hcg (which i've been on since week 1)
Three things I want comment on.
That 150 pg/ml on estradiol is a false reading from the tren. So before you start pounding it with an AI keep that in mind. When running Tren Labcorps testing method gives a false reading. Next time get your testing from labsmd as they use a different testing method for estradiol that will read true.
Your Platelets are very high. This is what clots your blood. Yours is at 630,000. This is called thrombocytosis. If your platelet level is just outside the normal range, then it is probably not a big deal. But your platelet levels are much higher than just above the normal range(>600,000), you should probably have this checked. Your platelets are above the normal range and can be due to a blood disorder called essential thrombocytosis where platelets grow out of control. Having platelets high from this disorder can cause blood clots or even problems with blood clotting. Can also be due to a generalized inflammatory state that occurs when the body is fighting off an infection or from inflammatory disorders such as inflammatory bowel disease or rheumatoid arthritis can cause this. Can also be from the Tren causing inflammation. The point I'm making is if next test it's still up then you have to find out from a medical professional why and further testing will be needed. Always be safe. Again could be a secondary thing caused from inflammation. Since you have been feeling tired lately, I would guess that inflammation is a possible cause for your platelets being elevated.. Other than that liver values and kidney values look good. Is this your 1st blood test are have you been testing before?
You can accomplish more with less sometimes as you avoid these type of problems. Something to think about.
http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health//dci/Diseases/thrm/thrm_causes.html
http://www.localhealth.com/article/high-platelets/causes
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/updatedwhat-blood-testi...
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/updated-3-tren-causing-....
GoBigOrGoHome101Thanks so much! Those links and your explanation are very helpful.. This is my 3rd time in probably a year and a half getting blood test done, the past 2 was done at my doctors office and the problem before was elevated liver enzymes and that's when I was running tbol and one test done again a month after the cycle which my liver enzyme was still elevated.. But this is the first time I've ever had this high platelet count, and also the very first time that I've got my blood test done out side by 3rd party lab.. Since I started running tren I've had nothing but terrible pip every single time I pin. At one point both my delts have something really hard underneath it and I actually loss the striations on both my delts and it became like just a flat fatty arm (they're both gone now) but when I got this blood test both my quads are in so much pain due to pip I was limping almost.. I was thinking of cutting this current cycle short like right now, pct for a month, take a break for another month and get labs again... I am also considering of donating some blood (don't know if that'll help) but someone had mentioned it yesterday.. Give me your opinion of the best route I can take and I will consider anything to be safe and still be able to keep some gains all together.. Also another thing, I compete bodybuilding.. I'd appreciate any more feed back you have.. Thank you so much for taking the time to message me here!
How elevated was your ALT and AST? Although orals can have an effect on liver values it's more often than not the added training we do which will raise AST and ALT. When you do hard strenuous training it will elevate liver enzymes for up to 7 days. This has been medically proven and researched. Go read this so you know what to do and look for in the future :
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/elevated-ast-or-alt-wha...
I understand you compete but if a cycle is giving you problems like your having it's better to just drop it regroup and go back to the drawing board. When your body starts screaming at you and your feeling it drop it. Could be that you got a hold of some gear that just doesn't agree with you. Could also be that some compounds just are not for you. With 5 cycles under your belt your still learning what works and what doesn't. It happens sometimes that certain compounds cause problems and you just don't use them. It's an individual thing. Some guys can't use Tren. Some can't use Deca. Some have problems with EQ. See what I'm getting at.
You can give platelets to lower your platelet count. What you would give is double platelets. It's not like giving whole blood. Takes about 2 hrs. They hook you up to a machine that is similar to a dialysis machine that takes your blood out removes the platelets and puts the rest back in you. You can give platelets more often than whole blood. I've done it before. As a matter of fact my local blood bank called 2 days ago asking me to donate. You'll lower your platelet #'s and help a cancer patient live another day. But again you have to keep an eye on this and retest to make sure this was from inflammation and not from a more life threatening cause. If at a later date it's keeps staying elevated go see a Dr.
http://www.redcrossblood.org/donating-blood/types-donations/platelet-don...
http://www.eroids.com/og/the-bloody-truth
how far are you into your cycle
GoBigOrGoHome101Little over 3 weeks bro, but I might cut it short.. I'm just waiting to talk to beyond which is also a competitive bodybuilder and I really wanna hear his opinion of whats the best route I should take..
ok thabks for the bloods +2
It's awesome that you got bloods but I really hate that this is your second cycle. I'm not trying to be an asshole but i'm gonna come off like a real dick here. If this is your 2nd cycle then why would you even consider tren? EQ is one of the easier compounds to run and according to your post you botched that big time. Why in the hell would you run a long term compound for 8 weeks when the benefits are full blast 10-16 wks? I see you ran mast ENANTHATE for weeks 8-14 (7 weeks for an enanthate ester?). Wrong again brother! You did run your test correctly, which in my opinion is the only thing you should be running until you get a grasp on half lifes and different compounds. Oh and the old school way which worked was a clomid only pct, not nolvadex. I'm really sorry to be an asshole and hope I dont get flamed out of my frustration here but I can't see why everyone has to push that tren ace before they even get a grasp with the other shit they were injecting prior cycle!! Rant over....in all honesty keep up with your bloods, I'm only 2yrs older then you and I can let you know from experience our bodies don't bounce right back like when we were younger. Be safe, stay healthy.
GoBigOrGoHome101No worries bro, I'm not one of those sensitive ass dudes out there that'll get butt hurt because of someone ranting, commenting and criticizing over the Internet.. Thanks for the concern though, I appreciate that! And no it's not my 2nd cycle, it's my 5th cycle.. 1st was test C only at 500/week for 12 weeks, 2nd was Test E 750/week and var that probably was bunk as shit 60mg/day that's a 12 weeks cycle also with var from week 6, then the third was Test E 750/week and tbol from weeks 1-4, then cycle 4 was that one with EQ and now on the 5th cycle.. I've never ran clomid on any of the cycle, always been nolva only.. I respect any input, criticism and advice you may have.. Just try not to sound like a complete douche or I might go tren rage on your ass, but then again it's not like I can smack you on the Internet so I have to watch my rage and not have a high blood pressure or else I might have a heart attack! Hahaha! Other than that no offense taken from anything you've said on your post my bro.. Matter of fact I appreciate that someone is concern for the mistakes that I've done, for that I wanna thank you! Deuce
No worries bro. I'm just calling it how I see it. Your a big boy and I'm not trying to hold your hand. Some shit sounded really off (EQ and Mast duration + nolva pct) You only have one body so do it right. Plus there is a mod or two running around this site that truly has the power to smack people over the internet...trust me. Be safe and keep up with those bloods
GoBigOrGoHome101Will do brother and thanks again! Keep doing what you do my G and god bless!
How do you feel? Your wbc is pretty high, possible signs of an infection...
GoBigOrGoHome101I feel fine most of the time, sometimes hella lethargic and just cranky as F... When you say possible infection, you mean like flu or something?
I mean like a bacterial infection, inflammation, etc. Maybe you don't have a bacterial infection but it can also be a sign of extreme inflammation. Bad pip? Extremly swollen injection sites? Excessive training on top of the above? That platelet count would have ne concerned as well. %35 of people with severely elevated platelet counts have a form of cancer.
GoBigOrGoHome101I have no swollen injection sites but I have terrible pip on both quads for sure... And I'm not too worried about the cancer theory, I have one life when my time is up doesn't matter what I'm doing if I have to go there's no stopping that.. Thanks for info my man!
AnonWhose Adex?
GoBigOrGoHome101Am I allowed to say It here bro? It's overseas company from Moldova
the company is from there or the source is from there... if its the source then I know who it is and your adex is quality...
GoBigOrGoHome101I believe the source itself is from there, everyone is scared to pull the trigger from those guys because their shit is dirt cheap but I've had good success from all their oils so far.. I'm sure you know exactly who I'm talking about..
mh001+1 for bloods
GoBigOrGoHome101Thank you my bro!
angusGood job. You might write something in the description such as your cycle. Basically everything we went over about you on the other SI. I bumped you some karma for posting. Make sure you ask questions in the description. When you are looking at this you'll see an edit button up top to the left. Click on that, make your changes and then hit save (I think it's at the bottom of the edit page). Tell people your history and you'll get some more help. You can just write in your Estrogen levels in the description instead of posting the second page.