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SP Test Cyp 200mg/wk (Sub-Q) 6 weeks 925ng/dl
My previous test results on this dose was 981 and once it was as high as 1193.

Estradiol 41 pg/ml, ALT 52 U/L, EPO 10.5 mIU/mL

Iron and CBC were taken after dual red donation. HGB was measured at 18.7 prior to donating and came down to 17.3g/dl.

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cadafi's picture

I get 1900 ng/ml with balkanĀ“s enandrol 200 mg per week, but true thing is, it will vary from person to person, every one is different

MegaT883's picture

Seems about right to me for subQ. The only one thing I see that you want to keep an I on is your iron level. When ever you give blood you will always lower your iron stores. Even though the test shows iron in range that just a snap shot of iron in your blood. Your iron stores through out your body are not. When iron stores are low TIBC elevates when iron stores are high TIBC decreases. That's also what your low saturation % is indicating. When we are on the sauce we feel great due to the increase in hemoglobin(all that extra oxygen)..without iron hemoglobin can't carry oxygen. Low iron = low oxygen which= fatigue. No biggie just be aware if you start feeling tired are fatigued in few weeks or a months that's the cause. Then get a female multi vit with about 18 mg iron and take it for a couple weeks or till you feel better. ( thats why females need iron supp's they do a blood drop every 28 days).

vengar's picture

Much appreciated. Four months prior to donation my results were :

IRON: 153 mcg/dL (59 - 158 mcg/dL)
TIBC: 407 mcg/dL (250 - 425 mcg/dL)
IRON SAT: 38 % (20 - 50 %)

No multi, I do eat organ meat regularly.

jp82088's picture

We all do respect brother but I find this number low. Usually at this dose it should put him around 1100-1300 as I seen 250mg put most people at 1500+ in their blood serum levels after administration.

To the OP how long you waited to draw bloods after last shot?

MegaT883's picture

JP let me let you in on a little secret. What your not considering is that not all lab equipment reads the same or is calibrated the same. If you look at all the testosterone tests on this board you will notice that they have different reference ranges depending on the equipment which has a + or - bias. Not all the same equipment use the same reagents to run the test as there is a + or- bias between different manufacturers also.Some tests read higher some read lower due to the equipment on the same know samples and that is the flaw in blood testing no one talks about. His test range tops out at 827. It's lower than others like Quest or Labcorp which means it will read lower. This is the problem. Some testing labs were off as much as 30% on a know sample. About 8 or 9 years ago it was such a problem the CDC got involved and tried to set a standard. If your going to blood test and want the most accurate reading available then use a testing lab certified by the CDC but understand even then it will have a + or - 6.4% mean bias. The other thing your not considering when you compare someone who tested high is age,body chemistry,speed at which they metabolize steroids(IM vs subQ, single dose vs multiple small doses), what else they are taking that can affect the reading( example biotin),injection protocol. All these things play a part in variance. Based on these facts I stand on what I stated earlier.

https://www.cdc.gov/labstandards/pdf/hs/CDC_Certified_Testosterone_Proce...

https://www.cdc.gov/labstandards/pdf/hs/Testosterone_Protocol.pdf

https://www.cdc.gov/labstandards/hs_standardization.html

vengar's picture

4 days.

jp82088's picture

Vengar when how many days you waited to pull labs after your last injection?

enhancedlife's picture

Seems reasonable to me

jp82088's picture

Rusty would you say this is a low number for 200mg a week? I was thinking 200mg would put him well over 1200-1300+ without an issue.

vengar's picture

I don't have any IM results to compare. There's always next time, I assume I'm just a 4.5-6.0 multiplier.