+ 22 Extremely underdose sust 300 from wholesalederect
So I started my cycle April 11 2017. Bloods were pulled May 23 2017. Last pin we done Saturday morning, and bloods were pulled Tuesday at 2:30 pm.
The test is not bunk, but extremely underdose I had a feeling that the test was way underdose since I know what it feels like to be on 750 mgs from a legit source but I decided to hold my thoughts until I had blood work to support my suspicions
These are my pre cycle blood work
Click hare for percycle bloods www.eroids.com
here are previous blood work I have done so compare and contrast to this test guys.
Balkan test 200 cype at 500 mgs a week for 8 weeks had me at 4521 as far as test levels go.
Click here for Balkan blood work at 200 mgs, 500 mgs, and 750 mgs
All in all, the wholesaledert sust 300 is without a doubt underdose.
Since my blood work, I started taking the dragon pharma sust 350 from the euroking promo. I am doing 750 mgs of that and will get bloods pulled in 4-6 weeks to compare to wholesaldert sust 300 and Balkan test cype 200
So stay tune guys.
I will contact wholesalederect to hear what he has to say and then I will review and rate accordingly.
Also, I am using novadex from alpha pharma at 20 mgs every day as an estrogen blocker. I am not experiencing any estrogenic side effects although my estrogen shows high in my test, (as far as water retention, nipple sensitivity, or gyno)
Also, although my gear is extremely underdose I was still able to make some progress, small progress but it's progress none the less, I will post a progress picture tomorrow or later today.
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Titsonmyman69you do realize since you waited more than 3 days (slightly more than 72 hours to be exact) to pull your blood's after your last pin, that the short Esters in there are pretty much completely gone right?with short esters, like are in Sustanon, should not wait much more than 24 hours if you want much much more accurate results....
Not saying its not low, or defending a source that ive never used....just to be clear...but if you had pulled a couple of days sooner i gaurantee your results would have been higher.
I see what you're saying man. I personally like to pull bloods 3-4 after the last pin regardless of ester. I am currently running dragon pharma sust 350. At the same dose as I was running wholesale sust 300. I am going to get blood work on the dragon pharma within the next 4-5 weeks. I will make sure to get bloods pulled on the the third day after the last pin so the bloods match the same time line that I did with wholesale sust. I think that will be a interesting comparison and a fair one too.
Thanks for the feed back brother
Just FYI .. dragon sust it's sust at all . It's just cyp.En . With prop
I'm aware of that blend. Lol it's funny ass blend. I wouldn't call it sust personally. But just going with what the label says.
+1 for bloods
Thanks Geo.
+1 for bloods
Thanks a lot brother.
RustyhookerLong esters in sust wont be kicking in 4 weeks. Might retest at 7....
Lil low but its not booming yet. Curious now...
Thanks for posting
I started my cycle April 11th. And bloods were pulled May 23. That's 5 weeks finished and going into the 6th week. I believe that 5 weeks is enough to feel real sust and see it in your blood work. I have used other sust from other sources and boy I can tell a difference. I have used super test 450 (satches) from ashop in the past at 1/2 mL 3 time a week for a total of 675 mgs a week and at the end of my third week, I felt amazing! The pump, recovery and endurance was outstanding. I wish I would have done blood work on that cycle. I have more super test 450 which I'm saving for a fall cycle which I am definitely going to be testing so that's something I'm really looking forward too. I am done with wholesaledert sust tho. I switched to dragon pharma which has great feed back and awesome blood work results have been posted on that brand. It's a waste of time and money to run underdose gear. I put a ton of work at the gym, I spent a lot of time preparing food and buying all that food and the time spent making it just to make sure I get my 6-7 meals a day. Only to realize the diet is 100% there, the training is 100% there, but the gear is on 25% there. It's a shame.
Anyway, thanks for the reply. And I hope this motivates more people using this source (or any source they may have doubts about) to go out and get blood work. There a guy using wholesaledret test that told me that base on the last two blood work of whole sale showing very poor numbers, that he is going to run blood work soon and make sure he's stuff not under dose.
RustyhookerWasn't defending source at all. I think he's got shitty ethics. See cnc if confused....
42 calender days, yes its low. I was simply saying the ling esters should kick in soon
Dragon for the last 6 months, very nice. But as with all ugl....before that...ummm...cough..cough. Glad they finally fixed that problem
Rest of that book ya wrote...no time to read it. Flip the source the bird and be off with ya
I know you weren't rusty, I just want to make sure I'm clear in what I'm trying to communicate. And I completely agree with you.. they were bad when they were cnc and how they went down. Only reason I gave them a shot was some good feed back from some respectable members and the blood results that gymjunkie01 had of them which showed really good numbers.
And I agree most UGLs have not been very consistent as of late.
RustyhookerI too misread as just 4 weeks. You're on better track now bro!! See ya in 6 more and up 10 pounds!
No worries rusty. Haha, thanks a lot! If I can put 10, I would be in heaven! Again, thanks and I'll make sure to post new bloods and progress pic.
Great up load helping the community.
Thanks a lot Growmore!
+2 for bloods one question what was your pinning schedual running the sust
Thanks man. I really appreciate it. My pinning schedule looks like this 250 mgs of sust 3 times a week. Tuesday 250 mgs of sust, Thursday 250 mgs of sust, and Saturday 250 mgs of sust. I do .8 mL since its 300 mgs per mL. But last week I missed my Tuesday pin since right after blood work I had to hear over to work. So my new pining schedule using dragon pharma is going to be 250 mgs on Wednesday, 250 on Friday, and 250 on Sunday.
So the week that bloods was taken you only injected 2x ? Don't take this the wrong way you can tell it's underdosed I'm looking at it from all points to rule out user error that's all
I pinned on tuesday 250 mgs, then I pinned on Thursday 250 mgs, then I pinned on Saturday 250 mgs, then the new weeks starts and I get bloods pulled before I have to do any pinning for that week. I always get blood work pulled 3-4 days after my last pin. That's how I've always done it.
That's also how I did it for the Balkan test 200 cype which you can check out here.
Click here for Balkan test results
Also, I'm currently using dragon pharma sust 350 from the euroking promo, in 5-6 weeks I am going to get blood pulled and I am also going to get them pulled 3-4 days after the last pin
Ok I follow you now .. smh I've always got quality gear from him but bloods don't lie.. thanks for posting and doing your part
Anytime brother. One of the reason I went with this source is because I saw how great your blood work was with them. You never know maybe it's a bad batch, unfortunately there's not a lot blood work on this source so it's hard to tell if it's a batch on or just going down hill like another member mentioned earlier. I recently saw some post blood work for their super test 450 and unfortunately he's bloods were worst than mine. I just want to know what whole has to say about this
I am the one who posted the 450 results
and I have a bunch of his gear this
does not look like a accident anymore
to me. He should either replace the products
or refund anyone with the underdosed gear.
That's right man. By the way, did you ever contacted the source and told him about your test results. If so, what did he say? I completely agree with you thought. I sent him a PM and just waiting to see what he says
He said he would refund my money
for the supertest I am still waiting on
that. I have a bunch of his test including
the Sustanon 300,test E,cip,prop . I
want to send it all to be tested.i will
let you know if I get my payment .
Yeah brother. Keep us posted. I PM'ed him and waiting to see what he says
Source looks to be tanking harder than the '11 Indianapolis Colts. I don't buy the whole "bad batch" thing anymore after seeing how things work behind the scenes. There's a lot of money in those powders, and it simply doesn't behoove… whomever… to send extremely impure batches. No more details than that, for obvious reasons. But getting bunk batches of raws isn't likely. What is likely is a source getting behind, swamped with orders, and them thinking, "oh shit, I just had a batch of this stuff seized." Or, "oh shit, I can't brew enough to fill those orders." That's when underdosing--deliberate underdosing--occurs. Then it's, "lol, sorry guys. My raws supplier musta fucked me."
That really puts it into perspective. Considering how cheap raw test or sust powders are. I completely agree with you. Let's see if whole has anything to say about this. If I recon, he didn't say anything about the previous horrible numbers of the bloods pulled for his super test 450. Thanks for the inside scoop Brooklyn!
Yeah me to ..
+1. Source had gone down hill. I moved on months ago. Slow ship and i felt last few batches underdosed as well
Thank man! They most likely were. I messaged the source, let's see what he has to say.
Thanks for sharing. That's disappointing to say the least.
You're welcome brother. It's very disappointing. I was still able to make progress with the sust is as if I was shooting 250-300 mgs a week instead of the 750 mgs I thought I was shooting.
Yes very bad news for me to hear, I Gave him a shot just 10 days ago because of the prices he had but haven't received my order yet and its already been 10 bus days n my order hasn't even left processing , so the TA time he has stated is clearly not accurate and now this , that's what i get I guess when your trying to save a few dollars, its true that u get what u pay for it is true time and time again, should have stuck to my orginal Src, this is the first order and already have a bad feeling. Ty for sharing and being honest.
Anytime. Hope other people who are using this source can go out and get some blood work done. Blood work is not expensive, this test cost me 77$ with the 15% coupon code on private med labs.
RustyhookerStarted april....stopping at 12 weeks or how long you gonna be shut down?
I'm actually thinking of going for 16 weeks in total for this cycle considering the fact that for the first 7 weeks, I was running crap test. I've done 18 weeks in the past when when running EQ and never had an issue after getting off. as a matter of fact, after finishing my PCT (after the EQ cycle), my wife and I decided to have a baby, the little guy is two now.
he's my world 
Had a feeling it was going to come back low... Dragon has showed to be spot on so enjoy some real gains brotha +2 thanks for the bloods
Thanks man! Yeah I had the same feeling, hopefully this motivates more wholesale client to run bloods to see where they are at. I'm interested in seeing more blood work from this source, the last 2 blood test (mine included) I've seen of this source have been really bad.
That sucks man. Glad you put this up here though. Wonder how many people who arent as in tune or run bloods like you do have been shortchanged. I am curious though how you make out with that dragon. I plan on starting mine later summer but am skeptical about going to another brand. +
Thanks man! I absolutely agree with you. Thats why it's very important that we run bloods. That way the sources are kept in check and the community can make informed decisions on where to buy. As far as dragon goes, the blood works and feed back I've seen from them has been great. I have never run dragon personally but I will get blood work done on them, I'm sure I'll get good results out of them.
I'm not surprised. Sorry to hear it +
Thanks man. It sucks but i knew that something wasnt right. Plus, someone posted bloodwork on their super test 450 and resultes were worst than mine.