+ 3 Estrogen
Cycle I just ended last week. 400/200/200 Test/Tren/Mast. So I just got my estrogen results back. I ended cycle exactly one week ago. I know nlw I'll run an Ai next time. I know my blood was thick so I donated about a week ago when I ended the cycle. My question is should I run a low dose ai now or just let it even out itself. I'm currently cruising on 150 mg test c a week. I am a little emotional like when I see stupid videos you're boy might tear up a bit lol. And I have some back acne going. No gyno or sensitivity in the nips though. But that estrogen is way higher than I expected considering I never had sensitivity or crazy mood swings or nothing to out of the ordinary. I have Arimidex prescribed from an actual clinic I never used when I first got on Testosterone. I went through trt nation originally before I decided I didn't want to pay 300 for their 10ml bottle of test and took matter in my own hands. Thanks for any advice in advance.
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Bro, with your E2 at 273 and hematocrit at 56, that’s definitely on the high side. Glad to hear you already donated, but I’m a big believer in fixing things at the root before relying on bloodletting as a go-to.
What’s your daily water intake looking like? Are you doing fasted cardio? Any organ support or blood-thinning supplements (like fish oil, nattokinase, baby aspirin, etc )? Those can make a huge difference in stabilizing everything long term.
As for the Arimidex, yeah … I’d consider a low dose now just to help bring that E2 down smoothly during cruise. You’re already feeling emotional swings and some back acne, so no need to wait for it to hit harder.
Keep it clean, support your system, and you’ll bounce back solid. Don’t panic … just dial it all in and let the body find balance.
So my diet and water intake wasn't the best to be totally honest. I would shoot for a Half gallon a day. I woke up and would drink a 16.9 ounce bottle with like a liquid iv and take with my vitamins which I split throughout the day. I take Amlodapine for blood pressure which I'm trying to get off. Doc said to diet and I should be able to come off. Then here's the rest, fish oil, baby aspirin, tudca/nac/DIM, Zinc, Magnesium, Biotin, pro biotic. And yes I do fast but not hardcore. 8 hour window I eat or try to. I usually skip breakfast. Eat only between 12 and 8. But I wasn't super dialed in. Water intake I would mess up a lot. Diet I screwed up a lot. Cardio I could of done a lot more. I plan on locking in and taking this more serious. Oh and I have a medice holder labeled by days which helped. But some days I'd skip or forget my night stuff.
I'd look into enalapril - it will lower hematocrit and total blood volume even better than telmarsitan regardless if your BP is high or not.
anvilAre you against starting an AI now?
No I'll start them I just want to make sure it's the right move. I read that my levels might even out on its own since I'm off cycle but I'd rather hear fun experienced guys.
anvilyes I would run it.
Running an AI during PCT is normal for lotta ppl
That's wild test scores at 400 bro!
I also aromatize high around 200 on 400 test per week. Your cruise dose at 150 may put your test pretty high which will also ha e your e2 on the high side, so it may behoove you to get your Bloods again in a couple of weeks and see what your levels are at, may have to lower your cruise dose a tad more.
Will likely be told to run some low test cycles from now on by more experienced users as well. Gotta get that e2 under control
Yeah I honestly probably should drop it even more. 200 test c by itself puts me around 1200 total test. That's why I figured 150 might be ok.
Those numbers seem strange since it looks like you're a hyper responder or whatever they call it. Masterone should of lowered your estrogen but looks like it did nothing. Are you sure those vials arent all test? Lol
Mast doesn't lower e2, it helps to alleviate e2 sides.
I'm lost on how 200 mg puts him at 1200 and 400mg at 4510. Im still learning so this one confused me lol
So 200 test c alone put me at 1200 that's not running tren/mast and anavar with it, that's running only test. 4500 was when I ran 400 test/200tren/200mast and 50 anavar. Im learning to I'm just telling you what I took and my levels. Also I got my estrogen test back and nothing here lowered it at all. It came back at 273 which is stupid high. I'm on Arimidex right now and only taking 100 text c during cruise to try to level out. I will Def change my dosing around next cycle. I'm still figuring all this out.
I saw that you are on a tri-blend. So, you are only injecting 1 ML a week??
I tried the tri mix at the end and yes at 1 ml. I mainly used test c 300 and I did 1.3 to 1.4 ml eod rotating between glutes and delts. But yes I got as close to 400 mg every week. In the beginning for about the first 4 weeks I only took 100/100 tren and mast. Bumped it up last 4 weeks to 200. Stayed consistent with the test though. This was kind of a sloppy cycle for me. I'm learning what I can and cannot handle. I plan on locking in better on my next one and staying consistent on what I use and the doses. Sorry I dont have solid answers I'm still learning man. I've only been on trt for a year. This was my first real cycle. I'm adding hgh next run. Just ordered some. First time with that as well. I'll also be using low dose ai this time seeing how fucked my bloodwork was lol
Ya, something doesn't add up, but everyone responds differently to dosages. We're all one big lab experiment and do our best to learn what works best for us as individuals.
Were all still learning bro, I'm new to the scene but old enough to know that Noone knows it all
well it lowered it for me so not sure how it works but my total was down
Wow. How long was “cycle” and is the first labs you’ve done since starting/ending the cycle ?
1164 total test before. Did not have my estrogen before. Cycle 8 weeks.