My thyroid numbers were worse on this round of testing than previous, but they hadn’t been great previously so I can’t say with any certainty it was impacted by the DHB. There’s definitely a lot left to learn about it.

600mg wk. I ran a majority of it with the 100mg/ml and tried to switch over to 150mg/ml towards the end. There was very minimal pip on the 100, but the 150 had a nasty bite. It was def worth dealing with more oil, there's no way I could have managed the whole run with the 150. Even diluted with some test it was still more than I could handle.

Yeah I'm def keeping an eye on it. I started some thyroid meds after the bloodwork so we'll see how that goes.

For me they felt completely different. The growth/strength gains were superior to mast, but it’s a lot more anabolic so that’s a given. I didn’t notice the same hardness & defintion I’ve gotten from mast though. Not that they were “wet” gains by any means, just a little more full if that makes sense. I’ve never used mast in a calorie reserve though so it’s kind of apples to oranges.

No hair loss, but I’ve never dealt with that with any aas so I can’t say it wouldn’t affect someone predisposed. I did have to increase my ai throughout. Several others I’ve read have had to do the same. Although DHB doesn’t aromatize I think it may increases how much test aromatizes. I read a theory that since DHB is a receptor hog that it leaves more free test floating around to convert to estro, so it inadvertently causes an increase in E2. I don’t believe there’s any backup to support that, but it seemed feasible to me...

Thanks Irish, appreciate it.

That’s what Bearded was saying below, thanks man. I’ll look into the gamma test. I wonder why it isn’t used more if it’s a more reliable test. Prob more expensive than std ast/alt..

I didn’t know that, interesting. Did they explain how/why? I’ll def research it. I guess I just got spooked because I had thought DHB wasn’t hepatoxic. Not saying it def is, but I couldn’t think of anything else that could have been adding stress on my liver.

Thanks Cade. Was running his test ace, prefer short ester test on cycle.

Thank you for the input. The dr already put me on some thyroid meds after the bw, so that’s a good call.

Thanks Rusty. Crazy thing was I donated about 4 wks in so they jumped back up pretty quick. I donated again after that last round of bw.

The white blood cell I believe is unrelated. My lymphocytes have been elevated in almost every test over the last couple years. Working on getting to the bottom of it with the doc. It isn't symptomatic at the moment fortunately, but hopefully can get it figured out soon.

Too bad the serum test level didn't come through in the first bloods but apparently not enough blood was provided. It showed my free test at >50 pg/ml, so I guess it capped out there. My serum level in the 900's was while running my TRT dose.

The doc ordered all the tests, although I made sure she included the lipid panel since I knew it could be having an impact. The standard for a full panel is usually complete metabolic, TSH for thyroid, liver function, lipids and then hormone docs will usually add things like prolactin/cortisol/dhea/progesterone..and obviously test and
estro. Obviously I’m leaving some out, but they are all listed at the beginning of each new panel on the bloodwork.

I had a very moderate calorie reserve since I wasn’t trying to add a bunch of mass. I hit a few new PR’s so there was definitely some strength gain. No change in libido, either better or worse. Recovery was noticeably better, as can be expected. Hope that helps bro.

Thanks bro, I had it all edited out and just selected the wrong copies. I hit edit as soon as I posted it and put the right ones in. You must of clicked faster than I did, lol. Thanks though.