+ 8 Consistent Bloodwork Using Different Batches
I have been using DC Pharma products and Gorilla King primo since fall 2022. I did bloodwork in December 2022 to verify that the Testosterone was properly dosed (via lc/ms analysis) and that the Primo was legit (which I confirm if my e2 is in the low 20s based on past experience working with similar doses of these compounds). The December 2022 blood test results shown here have been previously shared to Eroids under a different post. They are included again for easy reference.
About 5 weeks ago (mid January 2023), I started using vials from a more recent order from both DC and GK. I somewhat confidently assume the DC Pharma product is from a different batch - despite the labels and batch number being the same, the hue of the oil is different. The GK Primo had different (much nicer!) labels on them, so I very confidently assume it comes from a more recently produced batch.
To verify consistency of product and dosage between these different batches, and to ensure my health markers (liver, kidney, lipids, etc) were still looking good, I opted to get bloods drawn again (mid February 2023).
As you can see from the screenshots of the lab results, testosterone and e2 values are extremely similar. Test came back as 3178 ng/dl in Feb vs 3309 ng/dl in Dec. Estradiol came back as 26 pg/ml in Feb vs 20 pg/ml in Dec.
I am pleased with the consistency and authenticity of certain products from these providers.
Here's the stack (expressed as weekly dose) that produced the most recent blood results:
683mg DC Pharma Test E
420mg DC Pharma Deca
350mg DC Pharma Masteron E
350mg Gorilla King Primo E
I inject every day. Each time, blood was drawn about 8-10 hours after my last pin.
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Thanks for sharing. These are extremely valuable information about sources. And your results are pretty good, except estrogen bit low...
Good insight Gym Bike Bro! I am likely going to swap out 140mg per week of Mast for Primo and see where that puts my e2.
Those are some good results!! +1
Yeah I was thinking so too. Thanks! Happy with where health markers sit even with this level of drug burden
+1 for bloods i make alot orders from DC consistent labs
Consensus opinions are reassuring. Have a great day Mexvol
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Appreciated boss!
If blood tests were significantly different, then the sources QA/QC sucks. These look consistent so kudos to the sources.
My thoughts exactly! Thanks Makwa
You probably want your estrogen a little.bit higher than the 20s. You need estrogen to get muscle growth. If your estro is too low your not gonna make any gains.
If mine gets that low I start to feel off.
Once in the teens I start getting anxious, thirsty and have night sweats. We are certainly walking a fine line here!
If you are really interested in getting some better lean gains I would bring the estro up like the others have mentioned. That combo of mast and primo is really suppressing it.
I agree with you 100% Estrogen is necessary for a healthy body and mind and to optimize hypertrophy.
When I cruise, I typically let my e2 ride in the mid 40s.
Where my e2 is currently at feels fine. Sleep, mood, joints, sex drive are all in a good place. However, if I could design a stack that allowed my estrogen to be a little higher without obnoxious side effects, I'd certainly consider it.
Most dht compounds and eq suppress my e2. Deca and tren are basically neutral, but the mental side effects I get from them become untolerable above a certain dose. I'd run more test, but then I become kind of a sex-obsessed jerk.
I have found oral DHEA supplementation helps bring up my estrogen a bit. I have tried oral estradiol valerate tabs, but for some reason those cause me to get a lot of cystic acne, even at fairly low doses.
Ultimately, I appreciate the feedback. If you have thoughts on how one might go about increasing estrogen without undesireable or unintended side effects, while still accumulating 1.5-2g total androgens per week, I'm open to suggestions ----
Lower the mast or drop it completely. Kind of redundant with primo and I like primo better than mast for lean gains. Mast does jack for muscle but is a great hardener. Primo is a great hardener also and can build some lean tissue at the same time.
Thank you again for your input Makwa! :-)
Are you running an AI? I've heard that a healthy e2 level is somewhere between 30:1 and 50:1 totalTest:e2. I've also heard that primo and mast both have some anti estrogenic properties, so curious to know how you're keeping your e2 so low?
Dht compounds like anavar, winstrol, masteron and primobolan all have fairly strong estrogen-lowering effects when I use them. I do not make use of an ai.