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+ 11 balkan lab results 600mg!

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First time running Balkan labs oils, I was concerned it was under dosed because iv been feeling down and having no sex drive at all. Pulled labs last week and happy to see balkan is legit, Im happy with the number let me know what you guys think. 600mg test cyp weekly, i always pin 1cc 1 day before labs on all bloodwork. Balkan oils have pinned great for me no discomfort what so ever like i get from MCT oil.

My prolactin is high im sure naturally i produce higher levels based off of past experiences. I pinned 300mg deca for 2 weeks before test i bet i was already high because my sex drive hasn't been good for awhile. I want to see my estro higher as well. My joints been killing me lately, also been breaking out on my chest which never happens usually. anyone notice if there prolactins high if they breakout, or more so being lower estro? been doing .5 eod . was thinking of going .5 e3d . id like to be in the higher normal range. what do you guys think be a good dosage to try.

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Rayan's picture

Your testostérone is so high! Good!
What is the problem?
Balkan pharma is very good bro...

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hudsonriver's picture

i heard it's hit or miss with them. i got their 10ml test e vials, and it was definitely way under dosed..

mujeriego's picture

Post bloods/lab test or fuck off.

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aknbrk's picture

yeah ı know balkan pharma is legit and its products are confidental

DfromPhilly's picture

Good to see. Get that e2 up a tad and PRL down a little and you’ll be rockin and rollin. I’d push pause on the AI til you feel better. E2 is a tricky bitch.

May be time to donate as well brother

Gorilla200521's picture

thanks man, already feeling much better. physique does as well much fuller even while dieting. strength up and joints feeling better. haven't taken AI since think ill start .5 tomorrow and dose twice per week. Will look to donate soon

DfromPhilly's picture

Good shit. Good luck boss

MegaT883's picture

Gorilla200521 I took a look at all your bloods and see that you had E2 at 11pg/mL yet didn't see you post any libido problem previously. What changed?

Gorilla200521's picture

prolactin elevated. as well i took finasteride for a few months and feel like my sex drive never been the same since. Will see once i get my prolactin in range and estro a little higher already feels better after a pill of caber

jp82088's picture

Brother,

Please be very careful with Dht inhibitor drugs such as Finasteride. A lot of literature showing if you plummet Dht too low you permanently castrate yourself of androgens responsible for libido. Dht is responsible for your sex drive.

Gorilla200521's picture

yeah i did a lot of research on before i took it as soon as i started feeling sides i stopped about 3 months in. sucks because it was working, Oh well rather have dick working lol

DfromPhilly's picture

Working dick trumps hair every time lol. That’s what razors are for.

robb's picture

Definitely don't lower your estro anymore. Don't even lower your dose, joints aching and low sex drive, take no more ai for the time being.

Don't know how long you have left of the cycle but if it's just a few weeks left, personally I'd stay clear o ai till you get done if you use during pct. I use next to nothing ai wise, always there but as long as my nips are okay I'm good.

stew909's picture

E2 is definitely too low. That would have my sex drive in the toilet and I'd feel rough. .5 twice a week is what I'd try after maybe 3 or 4 days off to let estro build a little. I feel great for example with estro in the 40s on 600 test. That's on non sensitive test in the uk

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Gorilla200521's picture

thanks man that sounds like a good plan.

stew909's picture

We want to control e2 sure but not completely destroy it. I personally use Aromasin. I once ran 600 test 600 eq with npp at like 100 eod. I thought fuck,better run my Aromasin like 12.5 eod. Tell you what happened, estro of 12 and not a boner in sight. Like floppy as fuck. 6.25 twice a week. Sorted. I'd sooner have e2 slightly elevated than anything sub 28.

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pickle's picture

My guess is the EQ was helping lower your estro as well. Metabolites into a mild AI.

stew909's picture

Yeah. Ibe read about that. I'm going to try as again at some point

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Gorilla200521's picture

yeah ive only ran aromasin once and i started shedding hair like crazy. did some research on it and it can cause hair loss so i never ran it since. Iv always struggles balancing estro, will try .5 twice per week and get bloods done in a month or so and hopefully thats the sweet spot

mujeriego's picture

Spot on imo. Goes to show how many people can think a lab is trash when they go by “feeling” with no bloods when there’s probably something else going on

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jp82088's picture

@Gorilla200521 3590 is spot on 600mg!!! Great work brother. I am sending my sample in tomorrow for analysis.

Gorilla200521's picture

yeah thought so too, a lot better then alpha and dragon bloods iv done.

jp82088's picture

You drew bloods a day later after pin? Also were these the new design Balkans?

Gorilla200521's picture

yeah usually split up 600mg 2 -3x per week, pinned 200mg day before

jp82088's picture

Was it new Balkan design amps you are using?

jp82088's picture

I personally prefer the amps just for the simple fact that this is how they are sold in the pharmacies in Moldova. The vials are for the ug market and I do this exact same thing when I was back on trt before going off cycle. I would crack one amp and divide it into two syringes for the week, I've always done it like this...

Gorilla200521's picture

no they were not.

ShutUpAndPump's picture

brother do you use 10ml vial or ampoules?

Gorilla200521's picture

amps, only complaint on those they barley give you 1cc

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sorry not sure why it uploaded images sideways,

Testosterone, Total, LC/MS 3590.1 HIGH 264.0-916.0 ng/dL

Prolactin 20.8 HIGH 4.0-15.2 ng/mL

Estradiol, Sensitive 14.0 NORMAL 8.0-35.0 pg/mL

stairmaster's picture

Nice numbers but whats your dosage?

Very low E2, I wish my value would be lower but yours is nearly too low.

Regarding your prolactine contact Dacky he gave me great advice regarding my prolactine prob and warned me from taking caber because it can cause DAWS.

jp82088's picture

DAWS?

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see link below

GrowMore's picture

What do you take instead?

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stairmaster's picture

I took way too much for my then value bro.

GrowMore's picture

I meant do you take Prami now instead of caber? Or a very small amount of caber?

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stairmaster's picture

No I stopped the intake, my value was only 17-20 , here's no caber needed - dumb mistake from me .

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600mg weekly, i had it in main title but just added to description as well. yeah im feeling the low e2. i was going to do some research on just getting rid of the ai all together and using nolva instead, or maybe a combo of both so i dont have to use as much arimidex. Just watched a vid on how bad it is and possible effects it can have on the body people not even aware of yet.

interesting, what is DAWS?

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