posted Thu, 06/06/2019 - 15:26
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not impressed, ran 4iu ed for 7 weeks and only tested 295 when my normal basline IGF levels are 222! Not worth the money and time spent thats forsure! Didn't notice any results , really disappointing. I don't recommend these to anyone.
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I just scored a 288 on 8iu daily. Blasted a whole fuckin vial 3.5 hours before blood draw. Scored a shitty 288. Not worth it is right gorrila
def not worth the money. Thanks for confirming. Dont listen to Hailrazor im sure he is getting some kind of kick back . all he does is promote these Jins. results are results.
Lmao!!
Checks in the mail!
more like free kits
Not worth it?
This is his results from previous hgh
https://www.eroids.com/pics/bloods-for-hgh-and-testosterone
You’ve gottta read the whole test (range)
Not just the number bro ......you should know that with all the info offered here on the forum
LOL your basing that off of another shitty chinese lab.
And I quote from your comment:
Couldn’t be too shitty..unless you’re just a LIAR....dumb ass
YOU MUST BE GETTING A KICK BACK
Not to mention you can’t even read / understand your own blood Serums
115-355 ng/mL
6ius - 372 (+17)
98-282 ng/mL
4ius - 295 (+13)
Another example of some lying ass dumb kid just injecting stuff
Prolly racking in all kinds of shiny BITCOINS from sources with all your blood reports you post.....if they’re even yours LIAR
that was way before i tried legit pharm growth. didnt have pharm to compare too. Look at what my baseline is and compare that to the 4iu of this . no way its accurately dosed. WHy would a source give me bitcoins for posting bad results. use your BRAIN. This source got all defensive right away calling bs. ALL i state is results.
Yea
And your results have 2 differently ranges lol
You still don’t even comprehend your OWN bloodwork....if it’s even yours LIAR
You’re a scammer...and a dumb one at that
Jesus....that’s scary bro how low your IQ and IGF1 is
Lol....such a dumb ass.....GH Serums shows doseage accurately? Oh my goodness
Lmao.....you still don’t get it
im a scammer , WTF damn these low dose JIns must really have you butt hurt. you did get one thing right in your comment. LOW IGF1 is right. good job you agree now.
Higher number Good!
Low number Bad!
Low IGF1 from all then drugs bro
Your poor liver
Just say no bro
Awww man.....you just can’t fix stupid
You take care buddy! Enjoy them Bitcoins
Check out the big brain on Brad!
Lol
Yah will do, Get a life your on this forum daily spreading bs.
No. Not worth it. Thats my opinion. Why do i have to pull back my opinion?. They test shitty for me. Pmain and simple. Of the 3 hgh i have ever run. These test the lowest. I tested the mgt neofin powder last year and somastim. Tested the exact same way hail. Scored over 500 with them. Now with jins i score less thwn 300?? It shos yes it is hgh. But it is degraded. Since u all say pharma doesnt overdoes or undedose.
Isnt thwt the only logical explanation?? Degraded
This result isn’t shitty
It’s comparable to his last test...the link
I provided
115-355 ng/mL
6ius - 372 (+17)
98-282 ng/mL
4ius - 295 (+13)
If you read the whole thread and comments by MEGA instead of just looking at the “number” you’d realize that ....but you didn’t
It’s not opinion...the results are fact
As far as your results.... it could be maybe over heat exposure for long periods....but you can’t know that from one low IGF1 result
We’ve seen low scores from guys blasting 10+ iUs recently
We’ve seen guys getting low IGF1s and retesting getting higher IGF1s (same product/dose)
Everyone wants the “high score”
I realize your frustration bro
In your shoes i would def contact Sylvester Stallone,He s an expert when it comes to Jins .lil joke but sorry for a bad run of these :/
I find it funny how everyone is coming up with all these crazy factors that could cause a low test. Take a moment to think HGH is highly faked and or under dosed these days and you guys are trying to defend the HGH. This isnt my first go around testing Gh. I have nothing to gain by posting these results, I want people to be aware and to always run bloods on there shit.
Also wanting to mention. Reconstituting the GH it is a bit foamy / cloudy no matter how slow i reconstitute. Most people would say thats a red flag. Unless someone can clarify thats normal with this brand.
You say something like "I've got the numbers, they are low, so the product is not right." It is your truth, I personally cannot explain anything about your figures being on the other side of the globe, I can only wonder.
Usually the figures after hgh are higher, but the baseline is lower. You mentioned it and it is also a point. I guess there will be some more Jins testing after your post trying to make it clear and we will see.
What I can be 100% sure is:
1. the product is genuine and no question about dosing as it is official production
2. Jintropin is absolutely stable transportation, we've got plenty of experience with it
By the way, what numbers you expected to see?
Everyone here is asking good questions Gorilla200521 as we have had several post low IGF-1 numbers that were affected by something else the poster was taking that interfered with the results. After determining and eliminating it they scored high.
Did you use the same testing company and test for your baseline?
Did you are have you taken any corticosteroids?
I scored lower than this a few years back on some legit Jins (it's easy to verify authenticity) . I was dosing 4 or 5 ius daily and tested at 275.
It wasn't the product I was having liver issues.
Had a liver enzyme panel lately?
Being "not impressed" is a bit rough estimation of how HGH did its work which is not as simple as done by steroids. 295 is relatively low figure, but anyway there's a certain move up. As it was your first go with HGH (you mentioned it below), it may be also interesting to see some other bloods done after different brands (sold by us or any other source here, it doesn't matter in this case).
This doesn’t look right, hope actual hgh is genuine though
It’s a bit of a strange one this if just on test and literally nothing else - including supplements and prescription meds? These Jins are 100% legitimate and there have been some good IGF-1 numbers posted with them. Do you have a labcorp baseline for IGF-1? And do you have a CBC to go along with these test results? I’m happy to help you look for some answers if you like?
i posted my basline in the desciption box. they may be legit all i know is they aren't dosed properly.
Thanks......was this done at Labcorp too?
I know you’re on test at 400mg per week but are you taking any AI, supplements, vitamins, prescription meds etc? Have you had glandular fever/mono or being exposed to someone who has recently? Any bad cold/flu/viral type infection recently? Any autoimmune issues with you or with any blood relatives - especially any rheumatic type conditions? Do you work with animals or does someone you live with or are in close contact with? Do you or someone close keep rabbits or rodents as pets? Did you get a CBC done with this test and if so anything of note?
We can all be very quick to judge and all is not always as it seems - https://www.eroids.com/pics/updated-labwork-for-fulmen-pharma-gh-and-mis.... Your situation is undoubtedly different but the message is very clear - things cause all sorts of interferences with assay based IGF-1 tests. Have a read of this - https://www.eroids.com/forum/hgh-peptides/rhgh/dont-get-eaten-by-the-fal.... If you want to be more certain (although not 100% but very close) then the LC-MS test offered by Quest Diagnostics is a better bet.
Yea....one "lower than expected IGF1 Serum result" does not mean it's not properly dosed......(this is a genuine PHARMA product)
Now....3+ years ago I'd be saying the same thing
But.....There's plenty of nicely elevated Serum numbers posted on the yellow top 10IU JINs (Russian/Hong Kong/Mexican distributed)
We hashed this out years ago when we sent Vial samples to legit labs that produced lower than expected GH/IGF1 serums.....
HPLC showed dosed properly while serums were lower than expected
There is NO pharmaceutical company that uses Serum results to test their rHGH for dosing......just ain't accurate.....we all process/metabolize meds differently individually
These results prove that (I do appreciate gorilla200521 posting these results)
Stress on the liver can effect outcomes,etc.....
Or these could just be Counterfeit :))
Legit Jin's and BioHygene are the only 2 rHGHs I use
Seems to be working: (using 2-3ius JIns now)
https://i.postimg.cc/4JJYCnzB/8-EBE8-A8-C-EDAC-4-D3-C-B9-F9-AE593087-A8-...
Totally agree with you Hail as it has been proven on this board numerous times.
Something to think about...How is IGF-1 calculated? It's a statistical calculation based on population studies and a computational logarithm is made to quantify it.
I looked at the posters previous bloods in which the reference range was higher than now. .https://www.eroids.com/pics/bloods-for-hgh-and-testosterone
So he scored 17 points over max reference range of 355 on 6iu a day and 10iu 3 hrs before the test. I would guess his 222 base line was calculated on this 355 reference range.
Now he is older his reference range has changed. Its now 282 max. He scored 295 which is 13 points above max reference range. Think about that. Both within 4 points of each other over max reference range. See what i'm trying to point out. Don't look at the raw number. Look at it in relation to the reference range.
I didn’t even look at his previous test
https://www.eroids.com/pics/bloods-for-hgh-and-testosterone
6iu 372 range 115-355 ng/mL
17 points above range
4iu 295 range 98-282 ng/mL
13 points above range
Well damn....I learned something new today
So these results are comparable to his previous test
(4-6iu comparison to points above range)
Thanks Mega....that’s purdy kool
Also, doing the 10iu pre-bloodwork will elevate BOTH GH Serum and IGF1 Serum
It’s like frontliading Test (he stated he did that with the Ang test)
...the Angs were known to be overdosed - tested at 17 ius per vial. It's possible he was dosing more than 6 ius with the Angs. In addition he dosed 10 ius prior to blood draw which would add a little bump.
Pharma gh (including Jins) don't overdose their products.
The Jintropins are solid.
Sup Hamm
That Ang kit I had tested was from a private source wanting a lab analysis on it....prolly first batches sent out were purposely overdosed to create a buzz
I doubt the Ang from shop-hgh (kit he previous tested) was the same
This is cool:
https://www.eroids.com/pics/lilly-humatrope-72-iu-from-ugfreak
Shows a nice elevation in IGF1 serum from only one 10iu blast
Looking good Hail.
Thx Mega
On the backside of 40.....determined to still look sexy at 50 :))
Running any Provi?
I think Dacky or Makwa wrote some intresting things about right HGH testing a while ago!
Ok......slow down and cool off a bit. One lowish test result doesn't tell the whole story. I see your total and free test are really high, meaning you're not running the GH alone, and that's fine.
1.) What else are you taking with the GH and test?
2.) Do you take a multivitamin that contains biotin?
im calm. no biotin. only taking 400mg test. This isnt my first rodeo testing HGH.
I haven't seen quality Jins in quite some time bro so personally I'm not surprised....that sucks tho thanks for testing +1
yeah wish i new that before buying. Peoples reviews swayed me into thinking they were good. lesson learned.
RustyhookerRunning masteron? Did you see general forums on hgh research?
no mast, Iv ran pharm HGH before with much better results.
These are Pharma. Available in Russian, Hong Kong pharmacies, etc
Maybe the kit was exposed to extreme weather
But honestly I doubt it
These are old school Lyophilized JINS formulated for shipping (preservatives,etc)
MegaT posted some good info recently
And also:
FDA
WHO (world health organization)
Sandoz, Genotropin , etc
Blood Serums are biomarkers for bioavailability
Not accurate for protein quality, purity, dosage, etc
HPLC is standard testing for that according to WHO
We’ve shown it here many times with Real Lab Testing Vs Blood Serums (low IGF1s Vs properly dosed rHGH)
Appreciate the testing
Sorry you’re not happy
But these are legit GeneSci Jins
Someone recently posted low IGF1s using 10-15ius with a popular generic
Doesn’t accurately mean the product is bad
IGF1 results aren’t always linear (serum ng/mL)
no typical results from gh use followed by low IGF number = not good. simple as that. It did take a long time to receive and i messaged seller about my concern he promised it would still be accurately dosed.
Question for ya
Did you split the dose or pin all at once
For me...these JINs will get me in the upper 300s to low 400s at 4Ius
Yea....it’s a legit medical product so it’s dosed properly
But....if it sat in extreme weather...it coulda affected it
Similar to the liquid Nordi pens/cartridges
Sometimes those get ruined in heat/cold
The powder is normally more resilient tho
Doesn’t matter....end of the day.....your not happy with the product...sorry bout that
RustyhookerCool. Just asking if mast because theres a big inhouse research going on with mast possibly skewing numbers.
Is that posted up anywhere bro I'd love to see how that turns out. I'm doing 2 different research tests myself right now on what happens to GH when left at room temp for 14 days after being reconstituted, and what happens to it when it's been left in puck form in a hot location for an extended period of time. You check these tests out here if ur interested....http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.com/showthread.php/89721-GH-Test-On-PSL...
Not that I’m answering for rusty but these are the guys your looking for.
Extremely knowledgeable guys who are trying to look past ‘broscience’ answers to questions we all have.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/igf-1-testing-experime...
https://www.eroids.com/forum/hgh-peptides/rhgh/dont-get-eaten-by-the-fal...
RustyhookerBoom....thank you! Was on freeway
I've been reading some of these posts and I'm interested in contributing if u guys are still looking for help
I sent you a FR mate. MegaT fulled me in. Accept and let’s chat. Will be very happy to have you as part of the testers :-)
Thanks I would love to help out if I can I hit u back with that friend request