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Age 49 update pictures. So I can hold myself accountable. No lighting tricks, no angles, no shirt, just me. IYKYK
I want to take the time to thank the members here that keep me motivated. @press1 @stokes500 @SeeOhShow , Big Mikey whom I can't tag, Chad P whom I can't tag, @smurfdude1234567 , @simonmagus84 and bunch of newer members @Asa, @cruznet , @Whitetiger2982 I enjoy speaking with.
These guys support me and motivate me. @sparta23 brother where ever you are !! We are still keeping it real.

Mikeyt84LINY's picture

The gabba will Def help. You'd have to look into it though but i think there's other things also that could take the edge off a Lil. Just take it slow and easy i wouldn't go cold turkey id wean down gradually. Def feels like shit going through withdrawals and i don't think it's worth it, it would be hard to function and you'd be a miserable prick to be around probably.

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Spool's picture

Regrettably when I was in my 20s, benzoes were my DOC. I had insane tolerances, like taking 16 bars, yes bars, at a clip to even feel them. Did all types of these for years. Quit all that shit cold turkey. Worst 9 months of my life coming off. Constant discomfort, passed out 1 time, knew it was coming for days.

I would drop them cold turkey, use the gabapentin for two or 3 weeks spread out, use only when needed because they are powerful and habit forming. Then jump on a prop/oral equivalent after the two week mark. If you get the weird dizzy feeling during detox, try to trigger adrenaline. Other than that, the longer time o , the worse it is coming off.

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Rosschestzip's picture

Trigger adrenaline? How and why? Also did you ever have a seizure and if so did you notice anyway to know it’s coming on? I feel like this time when I stop taking them I’ll actually feel shitty. A few weeks ago when I had stopped, I felt no symptoms before I had the seizure but the other day I went two days without any and I got this weird feeling, I can’t even really describe it, I’ve never felt it before but it was just a very off feeling, I took a little piece of xanex and I was fine. So now I’m assuming that I’ll actually have some symptoms this time and maybe will be able to know when a seizure is coming on.

It was just so strange to have a seizure from such a short time using and such low doses of them. No one I know who uses benzo or anyone that used to, has ever heard of someone having a seizure that easily. Most of the time it seems to happen to people with much more severe habits. Oh well, hopefully the few days off before the seizure plus the few weeks of lower doses was enough of a taper and then maybe I’ll fine after tapering even lower this week and stopping completely ina few days, we’ll see I guess

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Spool's picture

I never had a seizure but I did black out/collapse coming off them. It happened 1 time and I felt it coming for days. Funny enough, I felt it get triggered, told my friend I was gonna pass out, laid down. Woke up on the floor. He was panicking and I was like dude I fucking told you. It was weird brother.

Imagine that weird feeling you feel, but imagine it for 9 months except worse, and on top of it you feel an insane weight on your chest at all times. It’s only going to get worse the longer you’re on. You need alittle plan. The mind is very very powerful and weird. First time you were oblivious to what was going on, now you know what’s happening so it is going to magnify. The adrenaline thing is weird and I can’t explain it but it’ll help flood receptors and stave off a seizure. Motorcycle, car, fight, roller coaster, bicycle hard, run hard, that type of shit etc…. Or mentally prepare it might happen and get ready to tell someone + lay down on your side+move furniture, call help, have someone know protocol. I’ve witnessed dozens of them and they are a very serious matter, potentially deadly, especially when it is alcohol detox iirc.

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Rosschestzip's picture

Are you sure about that adrenaline thing? I feel like that would make it worse. Like if it was kicking opiates that would almost definitely make you feel worse, or atleast I feel like it would.

And ya, knowing you be gunna be sick is worse than anything and makes it infinitely worse. And before the seizure I was worried about being sick so I was aware of it but didn’t think a seizure was even possible for me with that amount of use. So that’s why I feel like it truly was out of nowhere cus I was kinda looking for symptoms but that was the day before so even tho I wasn’t looking for them at that moment I feel like I would’ve noticed.

I just hope I’m not like so anxious about it and kinda hype myself up and feel awful just because I’m like psyched out and make it wayyyyyyy worse. Idk I’m sure I’ll be fine, it’s like the smallest habit in history, idk how that seizure even fucking happened man, I bet the hospital thought I was lying about how much I used lol

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press1's picture

Can you make a plan to come off them when you know your G.F and/or someone else can be around just to make sure that if you did have a seizure someone would be there to look after you? I am not sure how long the danger period is that it could happen within after stopping but I am guessing up to around 6 weeks? I don't know much about what happens when you do have one, but if you make sure you are laid down when you feel one possibly coming on does it just pass over after a few minutes or does someone have to be there to make sure you do not choke or something like that?

Spool's picture

Typically, benzo withdrawal shouldn’t have the same physical sickness that you would expect from an opiate. However, you’re going to feel really off mentally, physiologically and physical sickness may be a part of it as a byproduct. The best way to deal with it is to fully mentally prepare and just get hyped like you said and push through. Just deal with it and be done. I suggest the “adrenaline” thing only as a means to stop the body from seizing by raising heart rate/distraction/flooding receptors with natural hormone as a “reset” or “supplement”. It’s merely a suggestion to help pushing through.

Press, there is a protocol to dealing with seizures, move furniture to prevent broken bones from flailing, getting on their side so they don’t swallow their tongue(sometimes you have to use your finger in there if it’s bad) or potentially drown in vomit(if that happens), clearing the room, turning off potential stimuli(tv, music,etc) that can prolong it. There’s more to it. That’s just the basic shit you do while waiting for a professional/emt/doctor.

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press1's picture

Is there anything WE can do to get him some help or is it something he has to initiate himself? Can't have him in this situation mate.

Rosschestzip's picture

I appreciate the concern and the support, but I think I’ll be ok. In the past five days I only took a quarter of 1mg xanex on the middle day, so 2 days of nothing and then I took the quarter and then another 2 days of nothing. I’ve really taken very little since the seizure I’m probably good to stop now, I’ve hardly had anything at all.

It just sucks there’s no way to know if you’re in the clear or not. These things are insane, there should be like a mandatory class taught in them before you can get them prescribed. I’ve been doing a lot of research on them and it’s just crazy how much they can fuck up your brain and/or kill you. I read shit saying people who have been on them for 5, 10, 15 years and try to come off will be withdrawing for over a year!!! And there like delirious and confused and develop basically Alzheimer’s.

Idk man, shits crazy but I think I’ll be fine

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smurfdude1234567's picture

Rehab facility and anti seizure drugs while being monitored.

Continuing to take benzos after off for a little bit and having a seizure is probably the worst part of this.

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Spool's picture

I was thinking about this but I don’t know what we could do exactly. This can easily get into possible professional “intervention” or monitoring territory(which I know isn’t ideal). For me, I made a decision to quit them ages ago and was determined, no matter what, to ride it out. It wasn’t pleasant. Having the social support does help a lot though. It’s a shit situation ya know.

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Rosschestzip's picture

It’s a shit situation for sure. If there was a way to know if I’m in the clear or not, or knew if I was gunna have a seizure or not, then this would be a breeze and I wouldn’t be worried at all. But I might be almost done with this shit. In basically a month now I’ve had 14 or 15 one mg pills and then went two days with none, the took .25 of a 1mg xanex, then two more days with nothing, then tomorrow I’ll take .12 mgs, then two more days of nothing and then my last .12 and then that’s that…..hopefully. I mean that’s like a crazy low taper, so I should be good

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Spool's picture

Taper is a great idea

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Rosschestzip's picture

Ya it’s what I’ve been kinda attempting for the past 3-4 weeks since I had the seizure I’ve just been scared to completely stop but I think I’m low enough now, so it’s probably time to stop

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Rosschestzip's picture

Oh I won’t, dont you worry man, I’ll be back in it soon. I’m miserable just laying here waiting for something to happen, I need the gym, and my gear and my experiments lol

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press1's picture

I was wondering also - hope something bad hasn't happened after the fall he had.

SeeOhShow's picture

Lookin solid. Some dense hard muscle with some good cuts. Hair is lookin good too. Clearly a product of a solid diet with lean meats.

Oh you look good too I guess @anvil

SeeOhShow's picture

Had you goin there for a second didn’t I? lol look man you did it to yourself posing next to such a stud. My wife would kidnap that dog in a heartbeat.

You do look big as fuck though. Funny how that works. Leaner you are the bigger you look shirtless.

Mikeyt84LINY's picture

Dayum bro looking good ole timer. Lol
Nah I'm only 9 years behind u man. U Def leaned out though.

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HENCH500's picture

Fucking HENCH …. Looking great buddy absolutely smashing it , you keep me motivated my brother big respect

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YRB's picture

I’ll have what he’s taken haha Smile nice work old head

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Mac12769's picture

Solid bro. Way to represent Good

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CHIMAIRA75's picture

Yeah yeah!!! You definitely turned it up brother! Now you're talking! That definition is shining though now.
RESPECT brother man... Respect!!! Showing the young bucks what this thing is all about.
I'll be back there eventually.

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growthman's picture

Great work!

PrimoPantani's picture

Damn bro, absolutely inspirational content right here. Thickness and vascularity are off the charts.

CryptoRoids's picture

Insane physique! Congrats bro!

SimonM84's picture

Looking great brother. If this is what the DHB did to you I know what I’m doing in May lol. You look like my boss, same stocky style. Keep it up bro.

Chad P's picture

Mines locked and loaded bro, I’m hoping by mid April I’ll be gym ready to go hard. I was 10 days in before my accident so this has been a long time coming.

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SimonM84's picture

Good shit man, you’ll come back stronger than ever.

SimonM84's picture

You made things difficult for me by posting this. As of this morning I decided on primo but now leaning towards dhb lol.

SimonM84's picture

You know what, I might do dhb then use primo for a cruise.

SimonM84's picture

400 dhb 300 test c 14 weeks. Then primo 100mgs with test c 150 mgs.