posted Thu, 10/11/2018 - 09:34
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+ 2 Janoshik testing? No, thanks.
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You ever googled Janoshik?
Janoshik is a genius, he tested HGH from one of the forum members without even receiving them. The guy is full of shit and confirmed scammer.
https://ugmuscle.com/t/janoshik-analytical-scam-janoshik-com/3650
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/jano-the-ultimate-con-man-an...
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I could be wrong, and don’t want to get smacked for discussing anything prohibited, but I’d gamble to say almost all of the US labs are using the same base product. How many manufacturers of testosterone can there be? I think the difference is how many hands it passes through until it hits the source that does the rest. Same as any other product. This is why I trust sources that do their testing more than anything and it’s kept me doing pretty well. There the big name sources that are solid, there’s the smaller UGLs that are solid, then there’s, well, you know…
I think the whole page discussion has gone a little off tangent now, it was originally about whether we believe Janos testing to be trustworthy or not and I think it is. I have often had particular batch numbers of gear that he got high or low readings for, and it has always gone along with how I found the product to be at the time. We are all entitled to our own opinions on here, if people don't like him then just don't use him.
I thought the test was to where you put in the sample, the machine lights up, makes a loud whirring sound, followed by a loud pop and wind down, then spits out an old school cash register receipt of everything that’s in that sample. So if you send a sample for testing and say that it’s an anabolic steroid, plutonium won’t show on the result if it’s in there? I wouldn’t think that hplc testing is a one trick pony show like that.
It does that too - Remember the vial that came back with 3 or 4 different anabolic steroids in it that was only supposed to be 1?
Yeah, but what about a substance other than a hormone? Fentanyl? A diuretic? Uranium235? I wouldn’t think it’d be necessary to say what’s in it before the test is performed…
Simply put the way a chromatograph works is it detects molecules by their residence time through a column. This is the same principle whether is GC/MS or HPLC. If you have a known range of weights/residence times, you can drastically reduce your run time per sample. Yes you could run the sample for anything and everything but would drastically increase residence time in the column and you get overlapping compounds that pass through at similar rates. He tests just for what you’re looking for (AAS in our case) to drastically increase his throughput, would be my guess. A lot of times you don’t analyze for things you aren’t looking for. That is common practice
Respect! Awesome breakdown bro
'Droppin Tha Science bombs right there on us all!!! Lmao
I don't think there is any debating your knowledge on this particular subject mate
JustinbieberThat’s correct, which leads me to my original point. Chinese factories who have been making the hgh and steroids for all of the steroid world since the beginning of time are trustworthy and geninue. They are not counterfeit. They’ve been supplying us for over 20+ years.
When you hear of people saying it’s bunk or this or that, it’s not about the Chinese factory. It’s about people trying to say their label is better than the next label, for business.
Lots of uneducated newbies in the game now, where they think a shiny label means it wasn’t produced in the factory for $2.
But I like shiny stuff. I think I was a magpie in another life.
So explain this to me then, if its all ultimately the same stuff with different labels on then why is some of the gear I have received brilliant and other stuff complete and utter Dog Shite?
Not enough yeast to get the dough to rise, it’s all about how much ingredient is in the recipe.
"Not enough yeast to get the dough to rise" Is that a euphemism? For ED?
JustinbieberThere are more than just one of these factories where they have been making it since beginning of time,Obviously not all factories are to the same standard right ?
But you will notice the labels/brands/entities that have the most consistent stuff come from the factories that are well respected with how they make raws, finished products. Gh. Things to that nature. Those are the brands that have been around for a while that stay consistent.
Maybe the one that was complete dog shite like you refer to, took shortcut even more and went with the factory who said they’ll make it for $1 not $2
Lots of variables in play…or maybe it was just placebo and you heard some noise about a brand not being good so you automatically think that ?
Once you find a brand you like, stick with them as not much will change since it will be from the same factory with same quality.
Not all the brands use the same factories. You need to find the ones that do.
Once you do, then you will be set.
I disagree with you on that about a Lab/Factory staying good, I've used a number of labs that started off great at first, then over time became weaker to obviously increase their profit margins. I don't think any of this is country specific at all - you can get good and bad gear everywhere in the world.
JustinbieberYes, but all the raws come from China. 99% of it.
No one in Europe is making steroid raws. They buy from China. Cook themselves. Same with UK. They don’t make raws they buy from China cook themselves.
Some brands do the cooking themselves. Some brands resell direct and put their labels on it.
Too many variables at play. Once you know where to look then you are set.
Yes there is a factory in Europe making steroid raws. Well the balkans. Then there are factories in turkey and the US that go to Europe then make it into the stuff we use
I've been in the game a long time. Over 30 years. I know exactly how it works.
JustinbieberI’m glad after 30 years in the game, you still agree eroids is #1 place to be. This my favorite place by far as well.
They have the best scoobysnacks no doubt
I've only been here 12 years. I wish eroids was here 30 years ago. In the beginning, eroids didn't have the amount of good GH suppliers that they do now. That's the only reason I would venture out. There's lots of scooby snacks here. Enough not to have to go anywhere else now.
JustinbieberThats my boy !- #Scoobydoobyyydoooo
Let's be real, people who say Janoshik is a scammer, selective scammer, has no real lab, no certification, can't do so many tests per day n shit are just clueless couch warriors that does not know anything about this market. I mean it. Like just based on the info online, even if you have never tested anything, you can see that it's legit. Anyone who knows a bit about all of this and how it works, just laughs this off.
Have a nice week, friends. Nothin but love.
JustinbieberIsn’t it funny how Jano sits on his monopoly of this illegal drug testing market and is the only one we are allowed to go through ?
Makes it seems like he can fake his own tests and there is nothing we can do about it , oh wait he already does that.
Isn’t it funny how some usa meso sources have higher hgh purity than the factories who literally sold it to them for resale ?
Oh wait, isn’t that funny how Usa sources own meso and now meso says you can only use janoshik if you want to be a source on meso.
The more tests Jano is in control of the more profit for meso rx aka USA sources.
Isn’t it funny how in the interview Janoshik says you can’t trust the Chinese factories they are just in it for money with their fake lab reports they make, that’s why wholesalers and USA CLIENTS need to go through me for testing.
Lol oh? So we need to go through you , because you’re not in it for the money? You do this for the good of us ? With your own fake lab report years ago ?
Remind me, did the legends back in the day who look better than us today, need Jano to confirm for them that the product they use was pure ?
If this was legal market, little yano would be replaced so easily. A college intern in USA could replace him in one day if this business wasnt illegal. He acts like he is the only one who knows how to run a fucking hplc test.
Do you know of another lab that tests illegal products?
I must have hurt you a lot, 2 days old alt account.
If the business is so easy an intern could do it, what exactly is preventing you from hiring one and starting such a business?
Justinbieberthanks to the YouTube video, you admit you get domains taken down if someone uses one fake test of yours.
But you faked your own test years ago. How dirty are you ?
You find out someone else can be your competition and take away from your cash cow, who knows what you would do then. It would be worse than you just getting their domain taken down. You may take it step further and take them down in real life.
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Why monopoly, there ir few other legit labs you can use, at least for most of the products.
Jano is just the most popular and most likely there are reasons for that, as speed of testing, quality, communication.
Can't comment on fake tests as only info about that is some old meso shitpost.
Don't know about meso rules and who cares about that? Im speaking only about his service.
ohh, you don't agree that Chinese factories and lab testing is shit? Have you dealt with any of that?
Is it a problem that he runs a business to earn money?
Most people even today don't do any testing and go by feels reports. Completely fine. And most people don't care how precise the dosage n shit is, like changes nothing basically.
I think tests are needed to check if sources are legit and how they look quality wise. And I appreciate that there is Jano that can check that.
But it is a legal market. Anyone can get a license and test whatever they want, any drug basically. And there are labs doing this, Jano definitely is not the only one. I don't think running a hplc test is that difficult when you have all things set up. And I would think he acts like that because most of the forum members live in some kind of illusion about all this and post how he is a scammer. But anyone connected with some source or brand in any way, or who has just done a test or few, has enough info about this field to know the true.
But I don't care if someone uses Jano or no, its just laughable how clueless people pretend to know stuff online
I've been a member of meso for years. And haven't been on there for a long time. It's a shit site. Plain and simple.
JustinbieberThis is a good scooby-dooby-doo. I agree with you on this at least, but the other comment you said about not trusting Chinese factories, I don’t agree with you on that.
Hey, we don't have to agree. No hate. This is my hate free place.
JustinbieberIm not here to tickle your feelings.
I just speak facts about what goes on behind the scenes with janoshik and meso. How they collaborate together.
That is why on meso if you post lab report from other service they say “no good” need to do Jano only that way they can create which vendor owns the sales and yano gets his kick backs.
And it is not legal business in most parts of the world. That is why janoshik has his monopoly.
Why don't you, a 2 day old account, post evidence of your claims if it's a fact?
Stupid.
JustinbieberI must be stupid.
I can’t test and find out the purity of hgh without even receiving the sample, like you did.
You are very smart for that. Almost like a magician, But magic is fake, no?
The day you admit to all of us you cheated that test, maybe I change my mind about you.
Until then, I can’t trust you and neither should anyone else.
If you included pictures of our samples for free, your whole cheating scandal never would have been exposed.
Maybe that is why you decide to charge us $5 for a picture? In hopes we don’t bother paying that greedy money hungry mark up for a single picture?
Stupid .
My feeling are fine, no worries.
Yeah, I actually don't know nothing about meso and Jano stuff, so maybe you are right about that. But that does not sound so bad also. It's like UFC sponsors, everyone was pissed when they could only wear one sponsor t-shirts, but me as someone watching liked that much better than multiple coloured shit. So if everyone uses Jano on one forum, it's a testing standard there and no one can scam with fake tests.
Is it like that on Meso? Only Jano test allowed there?
Interesting read, makes you wonder after reading all these comments lol.
@Janoshik get in here
Thank you.
Those links are 8 years old. I don't know if the tests are legit or not. I remember a source posting Janos tests for numerous products and there were 2 brands that came back with the exact numbers. Turns out that one was a rebrand of the other.
Edit: Damn, this post is 5 years old. Lol
I mean, the fact that all they can pull out on me is things that are almost decade old speaks for itself.
At this point my entrepreneur spirit wants to look into the legality, and Cost of a Gas spectrometer.
I have a degree in Chemistry anyone wanna back me for 30%?
Not for nothing, but I saw a source list 50+ tests that were all supposedly done on the same day. I made a sarcastic comment on the post, but no one caught on, so I left it alone. Think about that 50+ compounds all tested in one day??? Even a simple Covid test takes approximately 15-20 minutes to perform and get a result, so even if this guy worked a twelve hour day, and performed one test every 15 minutes, he would still only be able to test 48 compounds. Are we supposed to really believe he tested 58 compounds in one day? If you believe that, I’ve got a few bridges to sell you at a great discount, SMH.
Given that your argument is that we're too good to be true and the fact you can't figure out the notion of parallel work by yourself I don't think I need to elaborate further.
Please, refer to the posts that outline the experience of the actual clients, as they are correct in their notions.
How about instead of making snarky comments over and over you actually explain how you tested them all in one day… or explain the testing procedure? From what I see you haven’t taken the time to defend yourself in a reputable sensible manner…
If you look at the Jano's mate - then you can see the Tests were ordered on the 25th January, I assume that means they were bought online on the Jano website and the 58 samples were posted off to him on that day. The samples were then received on 31st January - the Test results were then published at the end of the 2nd February on here as I saw them a few hours they went up. So in theory if Jano got the samples on the morning of 31st Jan he had 31st Jan, 1st Jan & the 2nd Jan to do all the tests - being 3 days in total. Once Jano has completed the tests I know he emails across the results virtually instantly to you. I know nothing about how the Tests are performed but if what they guys on here are saying is right then they could easily do say 10 to 20 tests per hour probably more. There is probably a good chance Jano was well aware he was receiving all those tests from the Lab so was ready to go straight away when they landed. Not being difficult at all with you bud about it, but it is feasible if things were planned out that way.
Bro, watch this video and tell me he can fulfill that many tests in a few days. I don’t even know why I give a shit because I don’t have a dog in the fight.
https://youtu.be/WO3FGPPmars?si=Gd9vvA0skAgjZyxO
Exactly.
Oh please, you’re completely full of shit. I watched a video of an interview with you explaining your testing procedures and there is no fucking way you could have diligently tested that many compounds in that short amount of time,, even giving the extra time Press1 is giving you to get it done.
If what Press1 is saying is true, why did it take you two months to test one compound that a source recently posted results for?? Although, you can test 58 compounds in a matter of days for this source? Your service seems to be shady to say the least, so whenever I see one of your test results posted, I just laugh and move on
You can also pay Jano extra to get expedited results. This is a common practice with all labs. Usually multipliers added to the standard TA if you want 72hr, 48hr, or 24hr TA. At least in my world with the sampling I do. Just wanna add that too. I think the folks who think he’s absolutely full of shit should go ahead and drop the $120 to get a vial of oil tested. I plan to do it simply because a source will give me $350 store credit to do it. That’s a net positive for my wallet.
Yes I can imagine if you are willing to pay extra you can get the results even quicker, all this is interesting to know bud as I am guessing you work in some kind of pharmaceutical area too do you? I have a few things that I would like to get tested also but it really does start getting expensive quick - its not like every test is the same price either is it. $120 is just for a basic oil test, then you have orals and peptides, HGH tests etc. But yes as you say if you get it back or as store credit then what is there to lose other than just initial outlay, interested to know who the source is who pays $350 store credit for tests.
Where are the bridges located? I may be interested.