posted Thu, 10/11/2018 - 09:34
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+ 2 Janoshik testing? No, thanks.
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You ever googled Janoshik?
Janoshik is a genius, he tested HGH from one of the forum members without even receiving them. The guy is full of shit and confirmed scammer.
https://ugmuscle.com/t/janoshik-analytical-scam-janoshik-com/3650
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/jano-the-ultimate-con-man-an...
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Newark, NJ, LOL
That could’ve just been the date they were recieved or the the date the tests were printed, just a thought idk?
If you look at the reports, all 58 tests state they were ordered two days before the day of the test. Meanwhile, a different source posted results for a single compound that was ordered in November, yet not performed until sometime in January. Sounds suspicious to me that it took him two months to test one compound and two days to test 58 compounds. Definitely sounds like a “Pay to play” type of business. If you’re going to scam people, at least be smart enough to spread out the dates and make it more believable. Now that I’m pointing this out, let’s see how long it takes the source to delete and repost the tests. If I was the source, I would be skeptical that I was being ripped off with the dates posted the way they are. That’s unless I was in on it myself. Although, I still wouldn’t have been dumb enough to post them until he fixed the dates for me and made it more believable. SMH
You do realize the delay between "Testing ordered" and "Samples received" is the time it takes the client to get the samples to us after he orders, so it's not dependent on us, but the client, right?
You can't seriously be that obtuse.
Did you just watch “the Shawshank Redemption”???? Trying a little too hard to make yourself sound intelligent there, McFly!!!!
So that's a no I guess. Pity.
Really obtuse? I thought he was kinda a-CUTE!!
No homo jake
You know dude. I realize people are saying things you may not like, but you're the business person here. Name calling is very unprofessional. People are going to say shit, it's how you respond that matters to a lot of us.
Depending on the machine you can set it up to run a batch of samples sequentially. You could load up the machine with all 50 samples, set it to run and walk away. Or he could have several machines. Now whether or not you should be running a standard check somewhere between all that is debatable. Runtime per sample can also be as low as several minutes. 50 samples is still a fuck ton of prep work and IIRC those samples said received then ran like 1 day apart. That was the more fishy part of all those tests than running them all in one day.
Here you go, Bro! Let me know your thoughts
https://youtu.be/WO3FGPPmars?si=Gd9vvA0skAgjZyxO
I hear where you’re coming from, but if you watch the video interview where he explains his testing procedures, you would understand that he compares his procedures to splitting the atom. No way a machine can do all these things simultaneously. I’ll find the video and post it here, then tell me what you think.
I’ve watched the video and what I saw was someone, whose first language is not English, try and describe complex machinery. Of course he’s gonna try and make it sound like splitting the atom because most people don’t really know how GC/MS or HPLC actually work and if he makes it sound very crazy then it justifies how much he charges to run these tests. I don’t know how many machines he has, but it’s very possible to RUN that many tests in the timeframe we’re talking. Like I said though, getting all those samples prepped and ready to load into the machine is where I find things fishy on 58+ samples being run 1 day within receipt. But I have no idea how many little slave labor fingers he has in his op to do this. Seems like me makes a fun ton of money and can afford a large team. He does charge a large sum to push your tests to the top of the pile though.
I don’t disagree that people don’t trust him because he’s been accused of shady shit in the past. Greed can succumb us all. It’s all very understandable, and natural, for us to be leery in trusting anyone in this game, because we’re injecting shit into our bodies. That’s a very high risk lifestyle.
Is Jano full of shit? I don’t know.
Jano aside, is running that many samples possible with enough machines and folks capable of prepping it? Absolutely
I don’t need HPLC data to trust a source, but it eases some anxiety seeing lab tests by a source. Same way using those shitty ass roidtest kits helps ease a little anxiety. #1 domestic source has no HPLC tests but id trust pinning his oil and popping his orals. But I wouldn’t be the first guinea pig to do it. His reputation and countless bloodwork is what sells me at this point.
Why would I need to justify how much I charge?
It's a service nobody is obliged to use and we have 5 people at the moment and it's a tad rude to call them slave labor.
Everyone justifies what they charge. Free market and supply and demand. Wasn’t an insult just a fact of business. Slave labor was just a silly euphemism. I’m American we’re always a tad rude. Don’t take it so seriously.
Well, SIMEC certainly had justify a lot when they provided 1/5th the service for 5 times the price.
No offense taken, it was tongue in cheek
Cheers
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This is crazy to be honest I never trusted janos whenever I see them posted up here it’s joke to me. I guess if you send him blind sample but I’m sure these sources write all over the samples exactly what’s in them and fingers crossed he sends them that stupid paper back lol spot on my ass man!!!
Well there is one way to find out. I send some Watson testosterone cypionate to him with the label off and see if he’s the real deal. Won’t even tell him what it is. If the results come back wrong then we will know. I’ll do that for eroids.
Go for it!
There's dozens of examples of people doing it and had we not passed with flying colours, the web would be full of it
Also send him a vial of mct oil because you never know which way the test could be skewed so send him one you know is real and one you know is fake and see what happens
I plan on something. I’ll see if he’s legit or not.
That would be awesome. I think Janos test would mean more coming from members versus sources. Not saying sources that do Janos testing is wrong or invalid, but a blind sample from a member would just carry more weight I feel.
I have taken many tests to test Janoshik, take your favorite source, mix several steroid oils, send them a test tube or another without labels, without names, nothing else, and he will tell you what there is inside, done it many times, with Oils, with mix raw materials steroids powder , I was shocked and satisfied
Do it, I'll cover the costs. PM me your wallet info!
If he doesn’t take you up on the offer, I have a 1ml vial of test cyp from the pharmacy for my trt that I’d be willing to let go, and also have plain grape seed oil and empty vials that I can put just plain grape seed oil in one, and send the other one out (cotton seed oil is in the other one. I do have grape seed mixed cyp as well but it’s open).
Let me know if he didn’t message you about it.
Any other places to get your gear/peptides blind tested besides jano? I contacted him for a quote and the number he gave me to blind test one peptide would leave me broke.
With steroids, I know for the most part who to trust and I have my go to's. However for peptides, there isn't much info on this site about peptide sources that isn't over 5 years old, and peptides are faked WAY more than gear is. Just wanna do my due diligence.
It seems like even the peptides from compounding pharmacies can be underdosed. It’s easy to tell with GLP-1’s which makes me wonder about some of the others. And they are expensive.
I am in a group that blind tested Jano twice two years ago using a university lab in the UK. He was spot on both times we tested him. There have been several instances of another member getting something tested at a different lab and the same product from the same manufacturer (but not sure if same batch) tested w/Jano with the results being minimal difference. Jano has too much to lose to screw with someone’s data. Right now he’s who everyone else is being compared to. I have no problem taking his word, and do quite often
I remember a while back, I’m pretty sure it was Janoshik’s results, a source said he was putting 5mg of cialis in his orals to aid with blood pressure and pumps. But none of the Jano labs showed that drug in the tabs. It was quite the topic for a little while. Was the test result off? Was the cialis bunk? I don’t know, tend to stay with sources I know and trust, try a promo here and there if they have good reviews.
I hear ya, Bro! I’m very hesitant to try new labs as well, unless I hear some great things from a lot of reputable members. I’m too old to waste a cycles worth of time on bunk gear.
Maybe he has legit testing and then you can also pay extra for whatver results you want?idk? But it would be odd that it wasn’t showing in the ones that customers were sending in? It would make sense for the sources results to not show it but the customers too? Because Janos wouldn’t know to not show the cialis on a random customers test, unless they were still labeled from the source he had a deal with that source. Idk man it’s all speculation
Not sure how it works but I think Jano test would have to specifically be looking for cialis within the sample or maybe cialis wasn't in the dbol blend at time of jano testing. Hell I dunno
Will detect whatever compound is present in the sample. Doesn't have to know it is in there and in fact he shouldn't even be made aware of what is even being tested for.
You are correct, gas spectrometer brakes it down to its most simple form molecularily. It can tell you 0.00001% trace elements if you want
Yea that's how testing works best, having a blind sample. Without a blind sample you might as well void the results in my opinion. So best case scenario is a credible member sends in a blind sample to Jano and if that sample tests accurately for dosage as well as compound then I can't see an argument against results. In that case there is no issue or shouldn't be.
That cialis probably wasn't in his oral at time of testing.
That would probably be my guess too.
Yeah
Interesting topic
Yeah man, I don’t know those specifics, that’s why I don’t comment on a lot of this stuff. But wouldn’t the test pick up other compounds? I’d think so…?
I'm only speaking on this cause I know a little about lab protocols. But with this type of testing not sure but I'm thinking that the computer that reads the test results has that particular compound as well as other compounds memorized internally, so basically matches up information with the testing sample. Now would cialis have to be specifically looked for I'm not sure about.
just remember this isn't a certified lab. Is there some selective scamming going on. Very possible and for sure there was in the beginning. I think he has now realized the cash cow he has and has tightened his ship. He stands to lose out more on being exposed as a scammer than he does just keeping his head down and running the tests and providing results as is nowadays IMO. Not a certified lab is always in the back of my head when I see results from him though. Hopefully we all haven't forgotten about beaker and angus.
We are certified, the document is online at our website.
I think you are bang on there buddy - in the early days it was very possible as I am sure there would have been big money in for him to give good results for the big boys or give a heads up if one of their products tested bad, but I think now they are pretty genuine. Just think about the amount of guys and sources alike that send compounds there regularly and multiply it by the cost to test it - its BIG money for him. I know some pretty reputable members who are big on getting things tested and they swear by him actually.
And I give more credit to blind results sent in by members than I do to samples sent by the source. Source just send in legit product and get a good result and then sell shit product while touting that stellar test result
I do find it refreshing when a source does post jano results that are less than desirable. I'll tend to believe good results from that source more than since they seem to post all results whether good or bad.
That's why we strongly encourage blind samples.
Cheers
Another thing is if you do an order every 2 to 3 months for example, with a major source then most of the time simply because the amount of gear the labs will sell - its a different Batch number each time on the vial or box. As we know each batch is also different in content, I will go through 8 vials of prop say then get a new order and I can feel the hormone level difference. I'm not saying its anyone's fault as nothing is ever a 100% replica, consistently good results do indicate a more reliable, quality lab though.
My thoughts on it are this- he’s been in the game for a long time and seems to be one of the most used labs. This is a fairly small and close knit industry so if he was really no good I don’t think he’d be being used hardly at all. And I think sources would steer clear of him if he had a bad name because they wouldn’t want to be accused of being in cahoots and Fudging tests. I could be being naïve but who knows
Yea there is always the good with the bad and this is simply the case from what I see. Of course anything shady can happen but also the testing I've seen with my gear has been on point. To each their own though.
I never post any lab results, I feel that is a customers responsibility because I can easily fake anything, paperwork, lab results, even testing by sending in pharmacy grade and selling oil from olive garden. That being said, I've tested a few items with Jano for our own internal purposes and sent them in marked 1,2,3,4,5 etc. They've all come back as what they were supposed to be, so he's doing the work for a no frills, no tip customer. Can't say anything else beyond that.