posted Thu, 10/11/2018 - 18:34
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+ 1 Janoshik testing? No, thanks.
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You ever googled Janoshik?
Janoshik is a genius, he tested HGH from one of the forum members without even receiving them. The guy is full of shit and confirmed scammer.
https://ugmuscle.com/t/janoshik-analytical-scam-janoshik-com/3650
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/jano-the-ultimate-con-man-an...
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SIMEC doesn't accept samples anymore I think
Couple hours researching the internet and no way i trust em. Blood tests wont lie.
How much of your research were reviews of my actual clients, if I may?
Bloods are limited to certain compounds.
I was just talking with Janoshik about testing something I have, and the testing they offer or compare to are just known steroids and SARMs.
There is nothing else that they search for or identify.
This to me is unsatisfactory because just like with any drug, there can be clones that can pass a test as the real thing.
Not only that but it would be nice to know if there are any "other" chemicals in the vial just in case.
But that's not how the testing goes.
The test results goes: "basically what you have here is Test E"
This is not worth my money to be spent and leaves too much room for error and fuckery.
Yes, if you order analysis for "anabolic steroids" only anabolic steroids are tested.
If you order an analysis for common SARMS, then only common SARMs are tested.
Do you get a glucose blood test expecting it to tell you your cholesterol?
"there can be clones that can pass a test as the real thing."
What do you mean? I don't understand.
Well don't take it personal... If I am going to pay to have a drug tested from the black market, I'd rather pay more money to have them test it for ALL drugs/prohormones/chemicals.
Not just steroids or SARMs. It's the potential for harm reduction we are talking about.
This isn't Amazon.
And chemical analysis doesn't work like it does in CSI Las Vegas series, with all due respect.
Lol whatever then I'll pass until better independent 3rd party becomes available. There are other drug testing labs out there.
It's obvious that your testing is tailored to the vendors, rather than the consumer.
I can tell by how irritated you are getting. It's where your cheese is at. I find it curious than Janoshik has his own eroids account for a review website. If I had my own truly independent testing company, I'd stay out of all this banter for the purpose of integrity...
Yeah, I should just let people spread nonsense and misinformation in relation to my business. Right.
Anyway, good luck and don't forget to keep us posted once you find a laboratory that will deliver your cholesterol results, doping pannel and drug test on top of your routine glucose screening, as that's apparently what you'd be expecting.
JustinbieberWho even cares what he has to offer.
It cost $120 plus about $50 shipping for him to test few drop of oil.
$170 to tell us some number he may or may not have made up for his own kickback with certain labs?
No thanks. I’ll pass on that.
Once a cheater always a cheater
Just admit whose alt account you are, just for the laughts.
And please, tell us what way do you devise to get a kickback on a blind sample, smart guy?
JustinbieberAdmit you cheated and start including FREE pictures of samples, and the biebsters will sing you a love song , okay?
What would free pictures do?
If he does that will you sing 'BABY , BABY , BABY , oooooOOOhhhh
Justinbieber“And please, tell us what way do you devise to get a kickback on a blind sample, smart guy?“
Pretty funny how almost no source sends in their samples as blind samples, right ? They all tell you which brand they are from and exactly what steroid it is.
Only when customers do it blind, that’s usually when people find out it’s underdosed and then the vendor reimburses.
Who’s the smart guy now, smart guy ?
Find me the last time a brand published a Jano test with underdosed test results with their brand name and the steroid it was and put it up for sale
Ba boom you said it all right there
I know one that repeatedly posted some questionable test results and still sold that shit. I think there thought process was it showed that they were “honest” by not hiding bad test results. They weren’t horrible but like primo 200 coming up as like 180 mg primo if I remember correctly
There's a SRC here that sends blind samples actually. Just number vial 1,2,3......
Yep. I have seen one on here where it just says, Sample: then a number. And under batch and manufacture it says unknown. Now based off client janos will know who it is. But that's about as blind review from a source as you can get. I mean anything after that is just a leap of faith. Aside from bloodwork, that's about as comforting as you can get with a source.
Probably same one , GK is the only one on here who did 4 sets of testing every quarter of last year his testing is a Mile long on his page. I personally did bloods on the GH and compared it to brand name Pharmaceutical grade blood test I did at the same dose and it was spot on. He sent the GH in to jano and it tested that it was properly dosed, so I don't agree that jano is dishonest. Sure, people on the Internet forums will talk, every one has their own agenda. People have made these claims for years but me personally i think Jano does a good service to the community. Not sure why people complain about the price he charges, he can charge whatever he sees fit, you don't like it, don't buy it.
Yep, he is who I was referring to. All his testing is one factor that lead me to pull the trigger on him. And then all the good reviews that came with it from members. Not saying janos is the end all be all, but just another factor to take into account. I def think it's a heck of a service to offer tho
Yes because it's very difficult to provide such a service in the first place. Now I'm no fool, I understand deception, and manipulation are everywhere in every industry, but you gotta do your own research and form your own conclusions. People say a lot but you must always ask yourself, why are they saying it.?
You're spot on Tone. Glad to have this review site. Worth it's weight in gold as long as we do our part as members/users.
JustinbieberAlso
Admit you cheated in the past. Until then, you’re not trustworthy at all.
You have too much power in the anabolic market to sway results, not like you did that in the past already right ?
Maybe you’ve changed your ways now, but we will never know. You don’t even include sample pictures. You want us to pay $5 for each picture of our sample on top of the already rip off $120 you charge to test.
Seems weird right ? Start including pictures for free. That’ll be a good first step in the right direction.
How is 120$ a rip off? Doesn’t this kind of testing require like insanely expensive equipment. I mean idk, but I don’t think it’s a dude in his basement with a microscope. Especially when he’s analyzing concentration as well as compound and doing hgh also. I’m pretty sure that’s a high tech operation
You are absolutely correct, but the guy you are replying to is a 2 day old alt account specifically made for slandering me, so I don't think he will accept any reasonable arguments.
JustinbieberTo say even more. Like the other member here who commented. You tested nearly 50 samples for a brand with almost perfect results. And there was not even 1 single picture of the 50 samples they “sent” you. Weird right ?
JustinbieberI’m on your alt account. You told me to come here and let some truth out so you can step in and clear up the confusion so you will look good and trustworthy again.
Did you forget the game plan ? Did I go too far into detail about the truth ?
Sorry boss. I tried.
I remember now you said “smart guy” was our code word.
How’s that for the laughs ?
You would have to use a certified lab like Simec for that. Will run you about $400 a pop + the shipping cost to switzerland. Only takes about a week to get results once they get though.
This is the way
SIMEC hasn't been accepting samples for years as far as I know. Am I wrong?
Thank you.
It has been years since I sent anything to them, so who knows now.
Thank you for that information... I might be willing to go that route with this stuff I have if they can really tell me the contents in it.
JustinbieberHere is the so called “janoshik” that all of meso circle jerk to
Some Australian company did interview with him 1 month ago.
Interview is on YouTube
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WO3FGPPmars
Minute mark 2:08 the “janoshik” appears
What exactly is the problem here? I see a guy struggling to explain complex machinery in layman’s terms with very broken English.
Not defending him. I just don’t think that video does anything to prove your point. Perhaps you could explain what is so apparently fraudulent with his interview?
Before you try insulting me saying I’m a Jano fan, I’m well aware of how it all works as I’ve personally used these machines myself. I would just like to hear why it is you think that video is so damning.
What's wrong with that video?
JustinbieberNothing is wrong with the video. The janoshik is a handsome man. Maybe we thought he would look more like a crazy scientist with white hair ?I just find it hard to believe he doesn’t cheat anymore. I can’t process why vendors sending in samples to him should even count ?
Someone said a vendor sent him 50 samples right, At 120 a pop, that’s 6k dollars. If you are the janoshik are you going to give bad results to someone who just pay you 6k dollars? Or would you return all the results to that person in a fashion where they meet the standards all us consumers wish for ?
If I was a source, I would want actual results. That way I would know if my raw source was legit or not. And I have seen some Janos results come almost 20% below listed potency. Posted by the source.
JustinbieberWho should we trust more? Chinese factories who have been making hgh and steroids their whole life through generations in their family
or some dork ,who already got caught cheating, that forums claim we need to start using for testing the gear we use in order for it to count towards credits with the sponsored sources they charge money for a spot on their website ?
Don’t get me wrong. It’s great we have Jano if we need to see what’s up with our products. But the whole idea of requiring Jano testing only to ensure your source is legit is nothing more than a money grab for the website owners, sources. And jano.
Dude, you know Chinese factories make counterfeit products of damn near every product out there,right? Name brand tools, cigarettes, electronics, factory car fobs. You name it. Years ago a Chinese factory made counterfeit baby formula. Babies died or were seriously ill, I can't remember exactly. So, I trust the dork over Chinese factories.
JustinbieberThe dork that tested hgh without even receiving it ?
Those Chinese factories you mention, yes they make counterfeit products as you bring up.
But we aren’t talking about those. We are talking about the Chinese factories who have been making steroids and hgh since the beginning of time.
They are genuine, in fact who do you think makes ultima, parapharm,all the ones here for $2 a vial then brands slap their label on it and sell it here for $60 a vial?
You must be new to the game and not understand how it works ?
If you owned a brand with your label that sold test c made for $2 , but you charge $60.
Would you want all your website members to buy from you? Or would you want them to buy straight from the factory for under $5 a vial ?
Why do you think steroid source forums for the most part don’t allow direct Chinese manufacturers to participate? Because they would steal all the business.
Look at meso for example. QSC thread has about 50k comments, and they are not even sponsored there. Find the next most popular thread there besides Pharmacom. The comments are around 10k.
Without the middleman, aka steroid source websites, there is no money to make.
BROOO STOP USING THAT EXAMPLE. across the whole internet everyone uses that one guys story about not recovering the HGH as proof. Find a new story
There are different people at each stage of the process, just like there are in the narcotics trade. As the process goes on each person takes their slice and the profit margins increase and the risks in turn increase. The guys in China who manufacture the RAW do not have to deal with the public as they want to make and sell it on to the Labs. The Labs don't either, so they involve a source who's job it is to deal with them.
I could be wrong, and don’t want to get smacked for discussing anything prohibited, but I’d gamble to say almost all of the US labs are using the same base product. How many manufacturers of testosterone can there be? I think the difference is how many hands it passes through until it hits the source that does the rest. Same as any other product. This is why I trust sources that do their testing more than anything and it’s kept me doing pretty well. There the big name sources that are solid, there’s the smaller UGLs that are solid, then there’s, well, you know…
I think the whole page discussion has gone a little off tangent now, it was originally about whether we believe Janos testing to be trustworthy or not and I think it is. I have often had particular batch numbers of gear that he got high or low readings for, and it has always gone along with how I found the product to be at the time. We are all entitled to our own opinions on here, if people don't like him then just don't use him.
I thought the test was to where you put in the sample, the machine lights up, makes a loud whirring sound, followed by a loud pop and wind down, then spits out an old school cash register receipt of everything that’s in that sample. So if you send a sample for testing and say that it’s an anabolic steroid, plutonium won’t show on the result if it’s in there? I wouldn’t think that hplc testing is a one trick pony show like that.
It does that too - Remember the vial that came back with 3 or 4 different anabolic steroids in it that was only supposed to be 1?
Yeah, but what about a substance other than a hormone? Fentanyl? A diuretic? Uranium235? I wouldn’t think it’d be necessary to say what’s in it before the test is performed…
Simply put the way a chromatograph works is it detects molecules by their residence time through a column. This is the same principle whether is GC/MS or HPLC. If you have a known range of weights/residence times, you can drastically reduce your run time per sample. Yes you could run the sample for anything and everything but would drastically increase residence time in the column and you get overlapping compounds that pass through at similar rates. He tests just for what you’re looking for (AAS in our case) to drastically increase his throughput, would be my guess. A lot of times you don’t analyze for things you aren’t looking for. That is common practice