16 Week Pro Cutting Cycle!
LET ME START BY SAYING THIS IS A VETERAN CYCLE...EDUCATE BEFORE YOU MEDICATE AND JUMP INTO SOMETHING YOU CAN'T HANDLE, THIS IS STRICTLY TO SHOW THE COMPOUNDS AND HOW THEY ARE USED FROM BEG TO END!!!!
Week 16-12
Test Ent-2000mg
Test Prop-700mg
Tren Ace-800mg
Tren Ent-600mg
Npp-700mg
Primo-1000mg
Humalog- 10iu with every heavy carb meal and P/O
HGH- 10iu Split into 2 shots daily
Week 12-10
Test Ent-2000mg
Test Prop-800mg
Tren Ace-800mg
Tren Ent-500mg
Npp-500mg
Primo-1200mg
Humalog- 5iu with every heavy carb meal and P/O
HGH- 8iu Split into 2 shots daily
Weeks 10-8
Test Ent-1200mg
Test Prop-1000mg
Tren Ace-1000mg
Tren Ent-300mg
Primo-1200mg
Mast Prop- 500mg
Mast Ent- 400mg
HGH- 5iu Daily
Weeks 8-6
Test Ent-800mg
Test Prop-1000mg
Tren Ace-1000mg
Tren Ent-300mg
Primo-1200mg
Mast Prop- 800mg
Mast Ent- 600mg
Winny(oral)- 100mg daily
Weeks 6-4
Test Prop-1200mg
Tren Ace-1200mg
Primo-1200mg
Mast Prop- 1000mg
Mast Ent- 600mg
Winny(oral)- 100mg daily
Anavar(oral)- 100mg daily
Halo(oral)- 50mg daily
Weeks 4-2
Test Prop-1200mg
Tren Ace-1200mg
Primo-1000mg
Mast Prop- 1000mg
Winny(oral)- 100mg daily
Anavar(oral)- 100mg daily
Halo(oral)- 80mg daily
Clen-80-120mcg daily
Week 2
Test Prop-800mg
Tren Ace-1500mg
Mast Prop- 1000mg
Winny(oral)- 100mg daily
Anavar(oral)- 100mg daily
Halo(oral)- 100mg daily
Clen- 100-140mcg daily
Week 1
Tren Ace-1500mg
Mast Prop- 1000mg
Winny(oral)- 100mg daily
Anavar(oral)- 100mg daily
Halo(oral)- 100mg daily
clen-140mcg daily
There are a few things i did not metion like SEO for spot inhancement for lagging delts, traps and calfs ect. But this is a rough guideline i pull a few things out to keep it not on the full picture. I will be morethan happy to discuss more in depth esp with other compounds missing! This is a very extreme cycle and keep in mind if yor not eating alot your not going to get anywhere with this cycle except PROBLEMS and dried up receptors!!!
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phil113kgHey P got a question that perked my interest. My friend who's been competing for over 20 years suggested that I alternate days of winny and days of clen. In other words, one day winny next day clen and so on. This goes on till three weeks out from my first show. Weeks 3-1 will be winny and clen ran together. Do you see the purpose of running this way besides that fact of not building a tolerance?
I'm 8 weeks out.
Yes that can work soley for the purpose for pulling light water brother I have done that as well as rotate high mg winny then anavar with clen 2 days on 1 day odd with Benadryl before bed
phil113kgWhy Benadryl?
Clears out the beta-2 receptors brother
phil113kgAh. Man where can I find that on my side of the pond???????? Damn
i believe ketotifen is in europe...should have explained, it upregulates beta-2 production the same as benadryl
phil113kgI will make a note of it and visit the local pharmacy, thanks.
no problem, you will def be able to tell the difference of the effectivness of the clen with it
Yes sir! Ran Benadryl after 2nd week of clen at 75mg per night and maintained Clen run for 6 weeks at 120mcg. Kept my heart rate up around 110-120.
hell yea! i had stopped having the hand trembles, took benadryl, shaking like i had parkinsons again the next day
I kept dose well below hand tremor. When you get to the shakes point just back down a bit and they stop then maintain that dose.
I was at 60mcg 2x day, heart rate fine just shakes
What kind of estrogen control would b run with this????
You sir are a wealth of information. I've been reading your posts & trying to follow...thanks for accepting me in this group. When I have a legit question, I know where to bring it. Thanks for your time & efforts
More than welcome brother
My current pre-comp cycle is similar although at a fraction of these dosages im very interested in incorporating short and long esters of the same compound i started running long esters at about 16 weeks then start incorporating short esters at 8 weeks out the tricky part seems to b maintaining stable blood levels but if one could figure this out it would b a lot cheaper than running shorts for 10-12 weeks with significantly less pins ill let u all kno how it goes
correct but 2 5ml shots a day everyday SUCK end of story lol
Damn right brother im running out of injection sites lol but id rather do it for 6 weeks than 16 lol plus tren e 250 will give u 500 mg in two mls whereas tren a it takes 5 ml so its cheaper this way also u kno im very new to this advanced type cycles so its trial an error at this point im doing tons of research and trying to do the best i can nxt show i plan on hiring some great help ;)
I know you are lol ;) you will fucking look sick as hell with papa lol My favorite spot to shoot is lats :))
U hit ur lats urself?? I got no one to hit me bro it sux i have a hard enough time reachin my ass lol
The misses sticks me cuts down on pip and all that jazz
she must have a lot of practice. wife pinned my glute one time and i couldnt work myself up to let her do it again. felt like someone drilled a hole in my ass with a spade bit
I like hitting the lats too. they can hold a good amount and the pip isn't bad either.
Fuck my girl cant even watch me what part of the lat do u hit??
the outer wing so much meat goes in smooth and feels great after kinda like your walking with a lat spread all day! lol
phil113kgI did it the other day, 1ml/lat and I couldn't sleep on my sides for several night. Hurt like a mo fo.
I gotta find someone i trust to hit me i dont trust most of these idiots to cut my grass much less inject hormones n my body
Wow thats a hell of a cycle Papaswole and thanks for accepting me into the group I might not post much on here but am reading and soaking up the info brotha. How many years of training does it usually take to work up to a cycle like this, right now I'm only using about 1/4 to 1/5th of the doses your program requires.
This a pro comp prep cycle my man....I left out a few minor tweaks but really I would say if your going to go pro or have a dream you need to focus on diet and training the aas and daily shots are easy my friend
I guess what I'm asking is consider someone like me just beggining to bodybuild or considering it, you don't want to start out on these kinda doses, but gradually increase doses with a goal of maybe 5 to 6 yrs of bodybuilding and then start hitting your recommended pro comp cycle when you are competing with the big boys. And typically how many yrs does it usually take a begginer with good genetics to compete in pro status.
Man truly it comes down to how bad you want it genetics is bull shit you want to be big you can just might take more work than the average joe of course....but your idea of increasing and playing with dosages is better than jumping straight in the pool with no life jacket lol. As far as how long it takes man i have seen girls go pro in 2 shows and guys in 4 shows then on the other hand some guys takes 9 years lol
I understand why you take out the test in week one,but my question is does this cause any sexual disfuction and if so what do you do to combat it. of course you'er probably not thinking about sex a few weeks out. eye on the prize.lol
i am certainly not on swoles level but i pulled my test one week before the end of my cycle and i was/am functioning fine. actually almost thru week 1 of pct and still gtg so i could be an anomoly
Yup i did the same thing for this ebc and i was fine, but i was also using masteron so who knows for sure...
true, i was at 90mg mast ed too for the last week so that could have something to do with it
Lol I don't even think about sex the last 2 weeks brother I'm in pain tired pissed can't sleep headaches lol no fun
so how much $ does a cycle like this cost you?
I buy for every two weeks brother my source cuts me a break the more I buy and the more vials the way less it cost lol I don't really want to do the math haha might make me depressed
I feel ya that makes me depressed for you.lol
After a cycle like this one what would pct look like.
Not really much of a pct brother not anymore at least you would have a cruise or if you wanted a pct I would start up on test p for 1 week then start normal pct program!
I see, thanks for the quick response and i just want to say this is one of the best and most informational boards I have read.I appreciate you sharing your knowledge
More than welcome here to help!
Do u feel that slin is absolutely necessary to b a pro brother? Shit scares the fuck outta me? Also how do you feel about t3?
Slin is the only way brother honestly there is a safe way to do it of course and t3 yes and no depends
so talking about slin when do you fill would be the correct time to start using in someones bodybuilding adventure?
Start a topic about it and the question you have and I will break it all down brother
Ok thnx i was utilizing t3 at a low dose (25mcg) due to the high dose tren lowering thyroid function....and i have a lot of research to do on the slin
PapaSwole thanks for your time. There is so much work you must live the dream. Somedays are hard some easy. Thanks for the information.
Trying my best for you guys to achieve a dream like i did....I remember failing, i remember when all of it happened so fast just like yesterday i see that kid playing football at 180lbs but i want to help everyone be sucessful even if it makes yall beat me on the stage!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hflZrCM1nK4