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Cycle: EQ (2 weeks front-loaded)

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This is another one of my crazy ideas that are floating around in my head. What i've tried to do here is to make the standard Test/EQ (Undecylenate ester) more effective by incorporating another ester variants of the same Boldenone compound, namely Boldenone Acetate. So rather than waiting multiple weeks for the Undecylenate ester to kick in, why not have an immediate effect with the use of the Boldenone Acetate.

Obviusly you need some form of Test in EVERY cycle, so í've tried to replicate the same idea with Testosterone Propionate which will be followed up by Testosterone Enanthate and if you wanted to, im sure you could include the Testosterone Deconate into the mix.

The method below of front-loading the EQ for 2 weeks will make sure that you hit a peak in EQ levels around week 3, as opposed to week 5/6 resulting from a 1 week front-load.

Here's one ways you can front-load your EQ:

Consider the half life of EQ for instance. 14 days.

If you would do this normally at... lets say 600/wk then after 2 weeks without any injection you would have 800 ish half life residue + 600 (injection) = 1400mg in your blood. This is what is actually effective on your receptors. It is slow releasing. In theory frontloading the amount you would normally have at the week that the substance is supposed to "kick in" will have it kicking in right away.

For the EQ you may do 1200mg for week 1 and resume normal dosing for the rest of the cycle if you're doing a 12 wk cycle. If you're planning a shorter one then preload EQ a bit more, but I wouldn't consider doing a 8 week cycle on EQ alone. (See: http://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/eq-exploration-a-different-viewpoint)

Also, have a look at this thread, i found it very useful: http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/front-loading-vs....

A front load of EQ for 2 weeks will see your levels reach 1800 by week 3 and remain at this dose consistently. This option is definitely the best, although you don't peak as high, you reach your peak by week 3, and then that peak is maintained throughout the rest of the cycle. So this way is clearly the best option for running an eq ace + eq und cycle.

By front-loading EQ for 2 weeks results in peak levels by week 3. If you run EQ cyp alongside this, it is unnecessary since you have the same compound in your body twice (since both estered variants of the same compound) are in your system. However what i would recommend is an EQ ace and EQ undecylenate cycle, where you are front-loading with the EQ ace in the period in which it takes for the undecylenate ester to kick in.

Also, for a front-load of the undecylenate ester, you have the option of running it for 12 weeks (for example) since it 'gets to work', in this case from week 3-12, and with an EQ ace kicker, you have the EQ compound in your system from weeks 1-12 (aka. the whole cycle period).
However, you do have another option, which is to run an EQ ace and EQ cyp cycle, in much the same format as a test prop and test e cycle. A 12 weeker will be sufficient in this case, and the cyp ester will be valuable in this case too.

To conclude, to get the best value for your money when running multiple EQ esters is to either use an EQ ace + EQ cyp cycle OR to run an EQ ace + EQ undecylenate (front-loaded for 2 weeks) cycle. They can both be ran for 12 weeks and I am definitely considering this for my next cycle.

This is a prototype, whereby the AI, hCG and PCT and Testosterone dosages are irrelevant in this case...

...What i'm looking for is your opinions on this cycle layout, making effective use of all the esters available on today's AAS market while maintaining a cycle which is as efficient as possible.

ALL opinions are welcomed Smile

**Week****Testosterone Propionate****Boldenone Acetate****Testosterone Enanthate****Boldenone Undecylenate****hCG****Aromasin****Nolvadex****Clomid**
Week 1100mg/EOD100mg/EOD600mg/wk1200mg/wk12.5mg/EOD
Week 2100mg/EOD100mg/EOD600mg/wk1200mg/wk12.5mg/EOD
Week 3100mg/EOD100mg/EOD600mg/wk600mg/wk12.5mg/EOD
Week 4100mg/EOD100mg/EOD600mg/wk600mg/wk12.5mg/EOD
Week 5600mg/wk600mg/wk12.5mg/EOD
Week 6600mg/wk600mg/wk12.5mg/EOD
Week 7600mg/wk600mg/wk12.5mg/EOD
Week 8600mg/wk600mg/wk12.5mg/EOD
Week 9600mg/wk600mg/wk12.5mg/EOD
Week 10600mg/wk600mg/wk500IU/wk 12.5mg/EOD
Week 11600mg/wk600mg/wk500IU/wk 12.5mg/EOD
Week 12600mg/wk600mg/wk500IU/wk 12.5mg/EOD
Week 13600mg/wk600mg/wk500IU/wk 12.5mg/EOD
Week 14600mg/wk600mg/wk500IU/wk 12.5mg/EOD
Week 15600mg/wk600mg/wk500IU/wk 12.5mg/EOD
Week 16600mg/wk600mg/wk500IU/wk 12.5mg/EOD
Week 17600mg/wk600mg/wk500IU/wk 12.5mg/EOD
Week 18600mg/wk600mg/wk500IU/wk 12.5mg/EOD
Week 19100mg/EOD 100mg/EOD 12.5mg/EOD
Week 20100mg/EOD 100mg/EOD 12.5mg/EOD
Week 21100mg/EOD 100mg/EOD 12.5mg/EOD
Week 2212.5mg/ED 20mg/ED100mg/ED
Week 2312.5mg/ED 20mg/ED100mg/ED
Week 246.25mg/ED10mg/ED50mg/ED
Week 256.25mg/ED10mg/ED50mg/ED
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i like it! i'm in week 2 of an EQ double frontload. this is my first experience with EQ, so I am def paying attention and logging my progress and sides. thought it was a little odd to get the increased hunger/appetite so soon, but after the second 600mg pin of week one, my damn appetite was oddly high. an hour or so after eating a meal, i was friggin' ready for another! can't wait to see what is to come.

on a side note - oddly though - i'm getting bad lower back pain. honetstly, i've never heard of this with EQ, but that is the only new compound i'm running, and my anavar isn't introduced until the last 6 weeks. curious to know if anyone else has experienced this with EQ. it's gotten so bad that daily activities are so painful that i have to stop and sit down.. in the gym, walking on the treadmill causes it. today i did light cardio on treadmill and eliptical, plus an upper body circuit. lower back was a little tight after the cardio, chest, back, and shoulder movements, but seemed to subside after doing the crunches and obliques. i think that's the antagonist multi-set principle that i talk about in my forums - rectus abdominus flexes and causes the spinal erectors to relax. eliptical didn't cause too much pain after the circuit, but walking to the damn car did. i will be supplementing taurine and potassium as soon as my local GNC gets their shipment (tomorrow). any other suggestions would be appreciated.

j223's picture

Yea appetite sides kick in for me too even after the very first injection. About 1 hr after inject I got extremely hungry. Only lasts until I eat. However in later weeks the hunger pains become more often. They also get more extreme usually by week 4-6 it's in full force thats when people "think" the hunger kicks in but it actually starts from day one. At least in my experience.

As far as pumps go I get mild pumps after a very long rigorous workout or after deadlifts or squats. I noticed water intake needs to be MUCH higher per day than off cycle with EQ. I drink 2-2.5 gal per day now it also helps with the pumps. Make sure to eat bananas drink OJ and take vitamins and taurine and you should not have any pumps at all. However your on your own when you start var lol

Trenabolic's picture

I get eq back bumps when I go over 1g, 1-test cyp gave em to me bad at a messily 600mg.

Doss's picture

kinda like a walk down memory lane reading my old posts. lol.

those back pumps were ridiculous! 5g of taurine + 1 banana + glass of orange juice + plenty of water... didn't matter what i did... once i got out of the double frontload, they went away.

i'm about week 10 of this thing now. after a few recent convo's, i'm highly considering modifying that cycle. everyone has me rethinking the 3 dht's. i want to cut it down for 6-8 weeks before dropping to trt dose. gotta get it right for my wedding and tropical getaway in the islands come july.

Anonymous's picture

Shit has me miserable at work. Tomorrow is the last pin for the front load. Still haven't been able to get taurine. Hopefully it subsides when I drop back to 600mg a week

P's picture

Have you written up your review for 1-test?

Trenabolic's picture

Yeah I got it just haven't posted it, lets just say it ain't no tren replacement lol.

Catalyst's picture

The science behind agrees with your comments, the two compunds have nothing in common really. Like P said, luxury EQ appears to be a pretty good slot to put this into.

Look forward to reading your thoughts on it BB.

P's picture

Exactly! I 100% agree (as you can read from my SWOT analysis of 1-test) - the tren replacement was over-hype (for obvious reasons, which we both know). It is a glorified version of EQ, which is a luxury imo, like primo, but if you've got the money to spend then its definitely worth a try,

klaydo68's picture

Nothing can replace king tren lol

Catalyst's picture

Large dose of EQ (900) has given me lower back pumps similar to that of dbol etc.

Potassium & taurine should solve.

Anonymous's picture

Thanks.

klaydo68's picture

I get more benefit from dosing acetate esters everyday bro but this is just an opinion im very curious about eq ace plz keep us posted when u start Smile

Catalyst's picture

100% agreed on ed pinning. Only thing in this instance is EQ ace has a reputation for some serious pip for some, which may make it impractical.

I'll be giving the EQ ace a blast in spring so will report back, but I'll be honest and say I rarely get any pip so I'm probably the worst person I know to base an opinion on.

P's picture

I've read that EQ ace has a nasty PIP too - since i'll be running it with the EQ (undecylenate ester) I can dilute it, which will hopefully reduce its PIP.

Also, a short only cycle with prop and EQ Ace will be a bitch to pin and the PIP...

P's picture

I find that personally i can get away with running short esters EOD, but i do understand that the best benefit will be received from pinning the shorts ED, which will keep bloods as stable as possible. I'm planning on adding TNE pre-workout into this cycle too.

I'm currently in my time-off period of this cycle: http://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/ps-cycle-adventure which I personally enjoyed and found that 1-test is a great substitute to EQ.

Catalyst's picture

Interesting that you talk about 1test bring a substitute for EQ.

I keep wondering how they'd get on together in a cycle?

P's picture

1-test itself is a great compound, very much like EQ...very very much like EQ with a slight primo tweak to it - meaning that you harden up and dry up a little more than you would usually with just plain EQ.

But a cycle with EQ and 1-test, imo is completely unnecessary and also a waste of money. I see 1-test like primo, its a 'luxury' steroid (referring to luxury goods here Smile ) and since the results are very similar to EQ i fell as though it wouldn't be effective at all. (to give you another viewpoint, i believe its like running test iso and test deca together - very similar indeed, but to the trained eye, there are some differences).

Catalyst's picture

The theory there is right, but I've read some interesting stuff recently that may indicate there is some value in the two working together believe it or not.

I'll keep you posted.....

P's picture

Most definitely, i'll look forward to it.

klaydo68's picture

I understand exactly!! Do you prefer to run the 1-test higher than the test?? Im considering using the 1-test in place of the eq cyp for my lean bulk due to the fact that ill be rolling right into pre-show protocol thanks for the feedback brother

P's picture

Always. In all my cycles, where possible, i like to run test at TRT/HRT levels (even though i'm not a TRT/HRT patient) because i like to feel all of the effects of the additional compound and minimise my bloating and water retention from the test, although i do enjoy the feeling of well-being and hornyness the test gives me lol.

I think that will be a great switch. Check my 1-test cycle (which ill post in this group shortly) and see how you like that cycle.

Also, since you're running into your pre-cycle protocol, why not add a EQ Ace+prop taper and var at the end to harden you up, or even mast p.

klaydo68's picture

Looks like a really fuckin nice run brother do you feel that running 1-test over eq is worth it from a money standpoint??

P's picture

Depends on your goals brother. If i was an avid gym trainer who used AAS casually, then I doubt you can get value for money out of it at this current point in time, since demand is high and supply is low, the price is naturally high (unless you can talk yourself into a discount). However, if i was a competing bodybuilder/athlete, then yes. I believe that tweaked compound will help you stand out, obviously providing that your diet is in check.

klaydo68's picture

Yea im a competitive bber my diet is n check 100% yr round so i guess i better splurge i got my offseason lean bulk laid out but it might be a lil much for this section ill fr you and you can take a look if you want

P's picture

Definitely, FR accepted Smile

klaydo68's picture

Im also very interested in the 1-test and yea i kno a few guys who notice no difference with ed and eod regimens with the ace ester ill check out your link brother thanks btw have you run the eq cyp?? I have some on the way with competitions i just dont have the time to run a proper eq cycle

P's picture

I've just came off a 1-test cycle: http://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/ps-cycle-adventure and loved it!
I also wrote a review on 1-tests strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and threats (SWOT Analysis: http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/1-testosterone...).

Never ran EQ cyp. I was planning on running cyp in this cycle to replace the undecylenate ester, but looking at the blood serum results of a 2-week front-load of EQ und ester at 2x the cycle dosage, the compound kicks in around week 3 (if not earlier) so there's no need at this stage for EQ cyp. However, if i feel that this cycle is ran beautifully then i'll switch the EQ und for the EQ cyp ester the following cycle and compare notes.