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Untreated clinical depression is a serious problem. Untreated depression increases the chance of risky behaviors such as drug or alcohol addiction. It also can ruin relationships, cause problems at work, and make it difficult to overcome serious illnesses.

Clinical depression, also known as major depression, is an illness that involves the body, mood, and thoughts. Clinical depression affects the way you eat and sleep. It affects the way you feel about yourself and those around you. It even affects your thoughts.

People who are depressed cannot simply “pull themselves together” and be cured. Without proper treatment, including antidepressants and/or psychotherapy, untreated clinical depression can last for weeks, months, or years. Appropriate treatment, however, can help most people with depression.

How does untreated clinical depression affect physical health?
There is mounting evidence that clinical depression takes a serious toll on physical health. The most recent studies exploring health and major depression have looked at patients with stroke or coronary artery disease. Results have shown that people with major depression who are recovering from strokes or heart attacks have a more difficult time making health care choices. They also find it more difficult to follow their doctor's instructions and to cope with the challenges their illness presents. Another study found that patients with major depression have a higher risk of death in the first few months after a heart attack.

How is sleep disrupted by untreated depression?
One of the most telling symptoms of clinical depression is a change in sleep patterns. Though the most common problem is insomnia (difficulty getting adequate sleep), people sometimes feel an increased need for sleep and experience excessive energy loss. Lack of sleep can cause some of the same symptoms as depression -- extreme tiredness, loss of energy, and difficulty concentrating or making decisions.

In addition, untreated depression may result in weight gain or loss, feelings of hopelessness and helplessness, and irritability. Treating the depression helps the person get control over all of these depression symptoms.

What are common signs of insomnia with untreated depression?
Common signs of insomnia include:

Daytime fatigue
Irritability and difficulty concentrating
Sleep that never feels like "enough"
Trouble falling asleep
Trouble going back to sleep after waking up during the night
Waking up at all hours of the night
Waking up before the alarm clock goes off
What are signs of drug and alcohol abuse with untreated depression?
Alcohol and drug abuse are common among people with clinical depression. They’re especially common among teens and among young and middle-age males. It is very important to encourage these people to get help, because they are more likely to attempt suicide.

What are signs of drug and alcohol abuse with untreated depression? continued...
Signs of drug and alcohol abuse include:

Inability to maintain personal relationships
Secretive alcohol use
Self-pity
Tremors
Unexplained memory loss
Unwillingness to talk about drugs or alcohol
Those who suffer depression and abuse drugs or alcohol may need very specialized treatment.

Are the signs of untreated depression in men different from those in women?
Men who have untreated clinical depression may exhibit more anger, frustration, and violent behavior than women. In addition, men with untreated depression may take dangerous risks such as reckless driving and having unsafe sex. Men are not aware that physical symptoms, such as headaches, digestive disorders and chronic pain, can be symptoms of depression.

Why is untreated depression considered to be a disability?
Depression can render people disabled in their work life, family life, and social life. Left untreated, clinical depression is as costly as heart disease or AIDS to the U.S. economy. Untreated depression is responsible for more than 200 million days lost from work each year. The annual cost of untreated depression is more than $43.7 billion in absenteeism from work, lost productivity, and direct treatment costs.

How does untreated depression affect my family?
Living with a depressed person is very difficult and stressful for family members and friends. It’s often helpful to have a family member involved in the evaluation and treatment of a depressed relative. Sometimes marital or even family therapy is indicated.

Can untreated depression lead to suicide?
Depression carries a high risk of suicide. This is the worst but very real outcome of untreated or under-treated depression. Anybody who expresses suicidal thoughts or intentions should be taken very, very seriously. Do not hesitate to call your local suicide hotline immediately. Call 800-SUICIDE (800-784-2433) or 800-273-TALK (800-273-8255) -- or the deaf hotline at 800-799-4889.

Most people who suffer from clinical depression do not attempt suicide. But according to the National Institute of Mental Health, more than 90% of people who die from suicide have depression and other mental disorders, or a substance abuse disorder. Men commit almost 75% of suicides, even though twice as many women attempt it.

The elderly experience more depression and suicide than you might think. Forty percent of all suicide victims are adults over the age of 60. Older adults suffer more frequently from depression because of the frequent loss of loved ones and friends as they age. They also experience more chronic illnesses, more major life changes like retirement, and the transition into assisted living or nursing care.

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Are there certain risk factors for suicide with untreated depression?
The risk factors for suicide associated with untreated depression include:

Family history of mental or substance abuse disorder
Family history of physical or sexual abuse
Having attempted suicide previously
Having family members or friends who have attempted suicide
Having mental and substance abuse disorders
Keeping a firearm in the home
If you or someone you know has risk factors for suicide and has also displayed warning signs, seek the help of a mental health care professional right away. Also, do not leave the person alone. People often talk about suicide before they attempt it, so pay close attention to what the person is saying.

What are warning signs of suicide with untreated depression?
Warning signs of suicide include:

Talking, writing, or thinking about killing or hurting oneself or threatening to do so
Depression (deep sadness, loss of interest, trouble sleeping and eating) that gets worse
Having a "death wish;" tempting fate by taking risks that could lead to death -- for example, driving through red lights
Losing interest in things one used to care about
Making comments about being hopeless, helpless, or worthless
Putting affairs in order, tying up loose ends, or changing a will
Saying things like "it would be better if I wasn't here" or "I want out"
A sudden switch from being very sad to being very calm or appearing to be happy
Suddenly visiting or calling people one cares about
Talking about suicide
Increase in drinking alcohol or using drugs
Writing a suicidal note
Watching well publicized murder and/or suicide reports in the media
Conducting on-line searches on ways to commit suicide
Seeking methods to kill oneself, such as getting a gun or pills
For in depth information, see WebMD’s Depression and Suicide.

Who can be treated successfully for clinical depression?
More than 80% of people with clinical depression can be successfully treated with early recognition, intervention, and support.

Depression affects almost 19 million people each year, including a large portion of the working population. People with untreated depression can usually get to work. But once there, they may be irritable, fatigued, and have difficulty concentrating. Untreated depression makes it difficult for employees to work well.

Most people do best with depression treatment using psychotherapy, medications, or a combination of both.

Excerpt taken from http://www.m.webmd.com/depression/guide/untreated-depression-effects?page=1

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Hey guys, I just joined this group and wanted to share a little bit. I'm diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder, and later ended up diagnosed with PTSD after an event. I have been afflicted by Clinical depression since a very young age (as far back as 8). It first started to affect me, a little before anything truly "traumatic" happened.

Not long after that age my mother had an affair, and my brother and I ended up moving to another country. We were raised by our mom and step dad and never got to see our father growing up. My depression got really bad when I turned 13. I was on Zoloft for about two years, as I could take advantage of my health care at the time and get treatment. It really did help when combined with therapy sessions, especially self help therapy such as cognitive therapy.

When I was 16 I was kicked out of my home, and took what money I had and moved back to my birth country. It was a little rough because I didn't really have a solid place to live until I was about 19. My mother divorced my step father and I moved back in with him around the age of 20. All this time I went untreated. I was working as a trainer and competing MMA up until the age of 21 when I broke my back, and dislocated my pelvis.

My body was in a bad way until I eventually managed to rehab myself back to life at the age of 24. I remember lying in bed staring at the ceiling not able to walk for the first 6 months. Thinking this was it, my life is over, I've lost everything, etc. No meds, no therapy, and a body I couldn't use, really took its toll on the depression side of things.

Roll around to now. i managed to get in the best shape I've ever been at the age of 25. I'm not 100% physically, and maybe I never will be, but it doesn't impact my everyday life, I just can't deadlift two and half times my bodyweight anymore, so basically some things have to be avoided, but other than that it's not a big deal.

Recently this year I finally discovered how to manage my own depression from a physiological point of view. I've always tried to maintain an active social life and an active work life. However I found it hard to not let myself become affected by depression.

I read up a bit on Dopamine, and Seratonin's rolls in depression and decided to grab what I could and experiment. I've been using Cabergoline, Pramipexole, and Dapoxitine for a while now. Coupled with a bit of L-Tryptophan when I take the Dapoxitine and honestly it's made such a difference. I haven't had a bad day in weeks. I can control the anxiety, and the bouts of depression, I hardly feel them now. Coupled with positive thinking, a healthy social life, and what I feel are good work achievements, it's all really coming together I think.

This is what works for me. If I could afford to go back to therapy I really would. Hopefully soon circumstances will allow for it.

Thanks for providing me this outlet to just share my experiences. I don't consider myself hard done by, and won't be a victim to this. I've had my days of self pity and drug abuse, and I won't let myself turn into that.

If anyone here wants to talk about what it is they're going through, I will always respond to PMs. Thanks again to the group admin, and the members here for providing this!

MusclePharmacy's picture

I like that you keep trying, very motivating!

Convict's picture

Thats truly inspiring brother!! Its often the ones that fight the toughest battles that grow the strongest hearts!

The farther the fall the more spectacular the view once youve finally got back ontop eh!?

Today would have been my 7 year anniversary to a woman i lost a few months ago....

I truly beleive the only way to forgive is to fill your heart with joy! For the dullest memories fade first...

All the best mate thanks for sharing!

lo's picture

My mom just passed away this year and its been hard on me I lost my real dad when I was young and my step dad has been locked up most of my life so I really don't have anyone to talk to any more. Me and my mom were close I have brothers but don't talk to them much honestly I haven't talked to anyone since my mom passed away. I try to to stay positive mostly for my kids. I was doing good working out staying in shape but lately I've lost all motivation lost my appetite and only been getting a few hours of sleep a night I keep telling my self I need to get back to the gym more often but I just can't seem to get my motivation back I signed up for a 5k to help me it's next week so I've been running a few times a week to get my self ready for it. But honestly i steel feel down I have had bad drug problems in the past so I don't want to get put on meds I would rather take something natural so if any of u know anything that helps and is all natural food vitamins etc. please let me know I would like to get back on track I'm not very good at opening myself up to people in my life but I do feel more comfortable talking to u guys on here. Thank u

Convict's picture

Friend request sent bro sorry ive been dealing with alot of depressive things myself and honestly i think we could really help eachother out if you want to chat some!!

Ps sry everybody else i really have been awol for quite some time! But starting to get back into things!

lo's picture

Thank u and everyone else that has posted I've sent out some friend request out. I got 7th place on my 5k run at 8 min. a mile not the best time but I'm happy with it. I've finally back to a regular workout schedule I feel like I'm doing a lot bettereven though I still have a lot on my mind. I really appreciate how supportive all of u have been thank u

red05's picture

Hey bud,

So sorry to hear about your mum passing. I feel for you.

I also suffer from depression, PTSD, DID. And I find the things that help me are, routine, diet, herbal supplements, and meditation. Plus exercise. But at times the wheels come off big time. And it's hard not to slip into old habits, drink, drugs, binge eating.

What I'm trying to say is I hear you. You are not alone, my experiences are different, but there are similarities in feeling.

Have you thought about therapy or counselling. That can be a real help. A safe space to discuss your feelings. It helps me alot.

I hope the above is of some use and comfort.

Regards

Red

MusclePharmacy's picture

Hey, I read this post today and wanted to say, "I care" go ahead and message me, I will put the FR out there. Just found out about my mother's death that occurred almost two years ago. Always figured I would make contact 'when I was ready' and in my arrogance, that has been taken away from me. Not the greatest help in the world, but I care.

Pmob's picture

X2 !! He can PM me anytime !!