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I feel this one may take some time to fully get our heads around and ill need quite a bit of help from the more experienced guys regarding particular 'negative' affects on the male mind from certain compounds.. All we can really do here is trust the advice of the experienced and knowledgable and i just don't have the knowledge or experience to list which compounds have a tendency to cause which 'mental' related side effects..
So.. Any questions just ask away and we'll try and help advise each bro on an individual basis! Im a freakin google FIEND! If i cant find an answer it doesn't exist lol ;p

But first up.. Lets start off by naming which compound we've had the worst mental side effects from!

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Hey,

I'm am diagnosed with DID (dissociative identity disorder) PTSD, anxiety, depression, etc. along with that is the chronic fatigue, which I feel has now become adrenal fatigue, I'm off to see my GP this week.

What keeps me afloat is routine, meditation, diet and herbal supplements.

Anything can destabilise me. The weather, a certain look from someone, tone of voice, unexpected loud noise or bang, anything, then I'm falling trying to grasp onto something to steady myself. This can last a few hours to a few weeks.

These last two and a half months have been horrendous. My fatigue has hit a new level. Unable to get out of bed for days at a time, unable to pick my 2yr old daughter up, sleeping but not feeling rested. This only adds to the depression

And people don't understand, I've been told to get a grip, grow a pair, that I'm weak, etc.

I'm trying to seek what might have caused this huge crash, what was the tipping point, maybe a collection of things.

I know how I want to heal myself, but I seem to be a lone voice and although I'm trying to educate myself in heal, through diet and herbs, it's really tough when I discuss it with family and friends, I just get a blank look and they want to change the subject.

I found when I ran a test e and deca cycle my depression was so bad. But looking back I know it was the deca. But I also reckon it may have been the lab as well. I've done test e cycles and using different labs and always felt good. But the test e from the same lab as the deca seemed to bring me down. I had run a test e cycle only using this lab before I did the deca cycle. Just a thought and it's only in hindsight.

Thought I would share abit about me and my struggle with depression and all it's companions.

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Was it the deca red or the excess estrogen? I bet youd get similar depressive results if you ran a 1gram test cycle compared to i.e 500mg test and 500mg deca per week.. ? Then again.. Deca maybhave caused hi blood pressure? U may just feel shitty from prolactin in ur body? I for one LOVE the feeling i get on deca i juzt through the tren away for some NPP

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I ran 500mg test e and 250mg deca. And I felt it shut me down in everyway. Felt really bad. When I've ran just test e cycles or added an oral like var I've felt great. But I also feel it was the lab, and I say this in hindsight, as the test e only cycle I ran didnt give me the same feelings as other test e cycles from other labs. As for your other questions I don't have the knowledge to answer them.

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I have been diagnosed with, ptsd, treatment resistant depression, passive ADD and panic disorder. I have been taking adderral for about a year and it has been fairly effective. The side, effects, however are unbearable at times. My major symptoms are panic attacks and exteme fatigue, both mentally and physically. No motivation or drve what so ever. As i said, the adderral works well but, it is an amphetamine and is slowly causing health problems. The reason i came to eroids is, a friend with similar issues said hgh, worked wonders for him and the side effect profile is much lower. From what i have read, the dosage required for general health and rejuvenation are fairly low (1.5-2mg) daily. I am in good shape physically. Already lean (thanks adderral). 40 yrs old, 5'8 185lbs. Mostly cardio, body weight exercises and martial arts. I just want to feel normal, energetic and healthy. I have just ordered somatropin. This will be my first experience with hgh and/anabolics. Does anyone have any insight on how well this will work for my particular needs? I am extremely hopeful.
Thanks everyone

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Hi medisinman! Sorry ive been away from the computer for too long and havnt had the chance to reply..

First off wow! Youve had it rough ay mate?! Im far from being a psychiatrist but have some fairly extensive experience both personally and through being close to mental health professionals. It sounds to me like that brain of yours is in overdrive and your body has no choice but to react along with it!
Personally if i ever start to feel really jittery and adhd like (my head goes berserk sometimes brother having adhd would almost be relaxing lol) anyways i find that changing my scenario really gets me out of my negative compulsive adhd type behaviour.. Spend a few days at your favourite bush retreat and try and get yourself into a relaxed state, get to bed early and try to be at dusk every morning! Think about the important things in life and set yourself up a simple 'life support' routine (sleep pattern, breakfast lunch tea, training etc) concentrate on the basics and try to set yourself a consistent daily routine so that youre nearly always eatin sleepin trainin Round the same time.. Try this for a few months mate ;) ive been watching the summer sunrise for the last couple months... Lost my fiance 3 months ago bro. But havnt felt this happy in a long time! I KNEW i had to pull my ahit together and set nd stick to goals or i would have been dead by now :/ suicidal drug addicted or fkn killed for tryin to take the dogs out that broke our family up.... Buuut.. WOOOSA!! You are the master of your own destiny and until you are confident and comfortable in youre own skin your mind will do nothing but try and escape it ;) my lil cousin 'had' adhd.. Til they got him a motorbike and toolkit shed etc.. He became a mechanic and fkn loves life!!!!! He found something that kept his mind busy that he enjoyed doing.. And felt proud of himself i guess so everything else fell into place.

Pm me if u want to chat mate

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For me it would have to be 'estrogen' there are times when i forget to take my aromasin due to working all weekend or whatever and there are times where i feel my nips are a tad bit tingly and take more aromasin than i probably should ;p.. I dunno about you guys but this roller coaster of an estrogen ride can really FUCK my day up lol! Ya go from finding interest in Oprah to wanting nothing more than to sit in a corner like a zombie with not an ounce of hope for tomorrow....

While this isn't technically an actual AAS i believe EVERYBODY on a proper cycle WILL have to manage their estrogen levels correctly, in order to maintain a 'consistent' frame of mind and if one wanted to get technical.. Way out the pros and cons of goals and predicted mental effects.. Higher estrogen levels are great for big bulking cycles but not that great for the mentally prone male ;p

Eq gave me some pretty annoying anxiety but nothing i couldnt manage with a few deep breaths lol..

So guys pls share ur experiences!