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I started it last wed. my frontloads are a little different then others. I do double the weekly dose day one, then because I pin long esters only once a week, I pin weekly dose day 2.

for all my long esters a frontload would be(if its 800mg/w)
mon 1600mg
tue 800mg
tue 800mg
tue 800mg

but ive been wanting to do it with a double frontload for EQ, most people just double their weekly dose for a frontload, im actually doing double plus the weekly dose. So for this EQ cycle I did

tue 1600mg
wed 800mg
tue 1600mg
wed 800mg
from here forward its just 800mg every wed. Im only running test with it. ill post up when I feel it kick in....So right now im 8 days in and have pinned 4800mg of EQ

humpnpump's picture

How about an update on the primo- EQ run Noid. How's it treat'n you bro?

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I pulled out of it early and dropped down to TRT dose, heart pain, work, shoulder pain, and not enough money to support my diet. Was a fun run. I dont know if you read the thread but I PCT'd after 4 years of straight cycling, havent pinned in a few months now.

humpnpump's picture

Hell no bro I missed the thread. Glad you played it smart and safe. Fire every thing you can to keep natty test and libido up. DAA and tongkat Ali keep my HPTA and balls thriving on a long cycle, so throw that in there to keep test and well being up. Check out the contest prep threat and nootropics, these will help with mood,'focus, well being and also balance out neurotransmitter and get shit regulating again. Hit me up in a pm it you want further info.

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Im good, ran Hcg, HMG, clomid and nolva. recovered without any problems, not even a few days of feeling like shit. https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/over-40-trt/from-trt-to-natty-again

humpnpump's picture

That's awesome Noid.

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So what's your opinion on the double front load Noid. We know it kicked in quick, but was it worth it. I mean did you feel like it was to much when it kicked in. Did you experience any serious sides besides the BP issues? Anything else you'd like to add likes or dislikes.

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I think the double frontload make a huge difference in timing of the ester actually becoming active, BUT the way I did it was to aggressive. I would advise a user to try it more like this

for a 800mg/w cycle
instead of
1600mg/mon
400mg/tue
400mg/fri
1600mg/mon
400mg/tue
400mg/fri

If I did it again I would spread it out differently

800mg/mon
800mg/tue
400mg/fri
800mg/mon
400mg/tue
800mg/thur
400mg/sat
then 3rd week starts regular tue/fri pinning regime.....the kick was to hard due to the 1600mg/load days and I could feel it as it came on, by spreading the dosing scheme out a little more even the body should respond much better. it kicked at 3 1/2 weeks the way I did it. this way I would suspect it to kick around 4 1/2 or a little more but less aggressively.

humpnpump's picture

Yeah gotcha man. Kinda figured you over did it lol trial and error man. Thanks for the info tho it is very useful.

Rustyhooker's picture

How's cycle going?

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did you know that you can retain water with primo?

Rustyhooker's picture

I saw that post. I didn't see how a dht can hold water. I've not used primo but I definitely know when mast kicks in by the immediate drop in scale weight from water loss. Last cycle was about 3 lbs lost.

Wonder what else is in the mix that would retain water. Mast would dry. Tren you're skilled with. Maybe a test of one form or another.

irongame427's picture

Well primo isn't a dht. 99% of people thiki it is, but it's not. It's actually a derivative of dihydroboldenone. Still tho eq and it's metabolites should be dry, but some people do retain a little water with eq. Idk tho primo should be really dry.

Rustyhooker's picture

Nice add! But.... maybe I'm lost.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metenolone_enanthate

irongame427's picture

theres no citation after stating its a derivative of DHT. So any joe blow could have written that. Hard to find any type of real medical study or credible source on primo info, but heres its very own website lol. http://www.primobolan.org talks about it being a DHB not DHT among other things.

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BP is back down to normal this morning. im still going to drop my 400mg dose this week just in case, if everything is fine ill pin again this weekend.

humpnpump's picture

Eh big'n I went and gave blood today and was pretty amped up on caffeine and took 50 mg adrol an 1 1/2 hr prior to donating and when they checked my BP it was 104/66. It's usually 130/85 on cycle. I've been taking L-Theanine 100 mg once or twice a day it's suppose to help BP and also level out caffeine buzz and give you a calm energy.

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Back to regular pinning schedule today, feel great. Added in t-bol at 60mg/d and primo at 600mg/w.

Rustyhooker's picture

Sounds like you'll finish rock solid!

Roid Noid's picture

I'm just now getting the fun part of the cycle. Test and EQ kicked. T-bol will be ramping up for the next few days and primo will be here in 4 more weeks.....

humpnpump's picture

Going for the big sexy of 2015 summer with this cycle I see.

Rustyhooker's picture

It's a lot of fun when visually the changes week to week are apparent. I wish I could afford primo. It sounds like a great one for finish

rolltide3's picture

I'm afraid to ever try primo. Prolly 99 percent isn't real primo and it's so expensive. I'd love to do a low test high primo run but finding legit primo is like trying to find bigfoot

Rustyhooker's picture

I hear ya! I'm not lean enough for it yet either. Still chasing Bigfoot.

rolltide3's picture

What it would of been like to get anything u wanted like the ole days of bodybuilding. Them guys had it made

Rustyhooker's picture

Pharma was easy and fakes you could spot easier.

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I went in and hit biceps tonight, no doubt about it the EQ has kicked, my pumps tonight hurt like a bitch after every set. I dont remember EQ doing that before but theres nothing else that could be doing it....so right at 25 days it took to kick, a little harder then I was hoping for, and a few weeks faster then i suspected.

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Getting any endurance boost yet? Usually cardio gets to be a cake walk. Last cycle was big and it was odd the endurance boost never really kicked in.

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So far I havent really noticed anything about cardio but i dont do straight cardio either. I do sex, and I do short breaks between sets, with work sometimes I can feel it as well. nothing obvious yet....But when the BP sky rockets like that its from the hormones kicking in, its happened to me before.

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My lady is good for the marathon. On tren, it's 20 and rest til I can breath. Lol. Cardio is usually stairs then treadmill. Heart rate 125-130. Nothing crazy, just steady.

humpnpump's picture

Yeah and has the hunger pangs kicked in yet.

Roid Noid's picture

I dont experience hunger on EQ. it just doesnt effect me like that.

Rustyhooker's picture

March is my kickoff. So just keeping focused that I gotta eat and lift my way up to 210 by new years.

humpnpump's picture

You must be stashing all the food away now,getting ready, squirrel mode. I went to grocery store today and loaded up on peanut butter, almond butter, and nuts, plenty of calories for in between meals. My EQ should be kicking in late febuary. I got plenty of freezer meats as well, I'm ready don't want this to get out of hand and become a dirty bulk.

Rustyhooker's picture

Definitly stocking up the chicken and lean beef. The carbs, veggies and fats are fairly easy to find. I had a nice fish oil that was tasty. It came in ketchup packs mixed oil with lemon juice. I'd like to get that again.

humpnpump's picture

Those are tasty, try a big bottle of Barlean's omega swirl fish oil, cheap on amazon and get the lemon zest.

Rustyhooker's picture

Awesome! Appreciate the input. The ketchup packs were a lil pricey. Ordering pins tonight so I'm ready to go.

Roid Noid's picture

BP elevated last night, I dont feel the EQ yet but its the only thing that would kick my BP up like it did, I was 180/120 when I woke at 4am.

rolltide3's picture

It's hitting hard three weeks in. Keep on top of your blood pressure.

Pale's picture

Wow! So now what?

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after my frontload i switched to pinning twice weekly in anticipation of it hitting hard like this, so ill run BP meds, probably skip my 400mg dose this week and pick it back up on the weekend after the BP drops down.

Pale's picture

Did you get the blood pressure meds from a doctor or sourcing them elsewhere? Can you just take them for a short period and then stop safely? Forgive my ignorance on the BP meds.

I have had a headache on and off for the last several days.So I am fairly certain my BP is running high. I take a tablespoon or two of unfiltered cider vinegar every day and that usually works but today I said fuck it and drained off two pints of blood today. The closest blood drive is more than a half hour away. I have actually gotten pretty good at doing it myself anyway. 18g on a syringe with the plunger pulled works like a charm.

irongame427's picture

That's fucking insane bro lol. But much more convienient then going to the Red Cross. I might try that soon.

Pale's picture

It is pretty easy after you get past the first time. Be careful with your movements and do it over the bathroom sink. Blood is a sumbitch to clean up.

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I was getting it from my doc, but I just ordered from here today as im running out and dont feel like talking to the doc http://www.all-canada-drugs.com/

As far as giving blood yourself thats way beyond anything i would do

Pale's picture

It's easy. Blood is a sumbitch to clean up tho.lol. Thanks for the link, I will check it out. I still have the damn headache...

PIN_CUSHION's picture

Damn! How did you bring it down?

Roid Noid's picture

lisinopril

Rustyhooker's picture

Your head must a been pounding! 150 and it's starting to get bad for me.

irongame427's picture

you guys are nuts i freak when mines over 130. Ive never seen it past 135. 150 or 180 idk what i would do. Scary shit.

Roid Noid's picture

yes i had a good headache