I the two years I used them for on cycle support I did not gain a freaking pound! Joints got thrashed. Sexy drive down. And moody. I’ll take a nolvadex every two weeks or so for good measure and that seems to work for me. Grow consistently now that I don’t take them.

I haven't ran just a serm before, but only because it was suggested to me not to rely on those for tren cycles and that's been involved in my gear use for a minute. I know that for me, i'm very sensitive holding fat when estrogen is even somewhat high, and abdominal bloat tends to build up to the point where I look pregnant, oh and my ankles swell really obviously, so at this point in my anecdotal experimenting i'm operating under the theory/assumption that I personally function better keeping estrogen at bay from the beginning, as opposed to handling symptoms.

But I know what press is talking about too. When my estro has been out of control, i've also been strong as fuuuck! No homo.

I don't use an A.I at all bud, in my time on gear I may have used about 10 Adex tabs when I've noticed an absolute tonne of water in my face and excessive lethargy but other than that none. When I was at my strongest about 3 years ago peaking my bench I took an Adex and spent the next 24 hrs pissing water away Lol Literally stopped all my PR's instantly from the loss of water both in my joints and muscle.