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Training around tendinitis?

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Just a quick shot out to any of the vets who have battled tendinitis. What are some good remedies or ways to train around it? I'm having some in my elbow not too terrible yet but I know it could get there. Do the forearm bands work? Any info would be helpful.

Unknown22514's picture

I have been dealing with tendinitis for some time now. Primarily in my left elbow, but also somewhat in my right. Pressing can be rough and skull crushers are basically a no no for me.

However, I have been able to help my tendinitis and carpal tunnel significantly with Magnesium and Vitamin B6 supplementation. I have been supplementing with these two vitamins for about a month and a half and I will say that I have noticed an improvement. I am able to press without much bother at all and can now do skull crushers with light weight.

Here is a quick read.

http://www.tendonitisexpert.com/magnesium-for-tendonitis.html

Note: If you choose to begin supplementation of said vitamins just make sure you get your daily intake correct as it's detrimental to take too much of either.

Texas40's picture

I did reverse curls for weeks, on my off days. Helped alot, nearly fixed.

Dr.BroScience's picture

Hey brother.

I recently came across this video that deals with this topic. While the entire video is not entirely on the subject of tendinitis, it still contains lots of solid info. . I follow RX muscle quite a bit and always find a good amount of useful information in their videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j5yTWJi8f0

Hope it helps. Good luck

Blazinghost's picture

Appreciate the link amigo! RX always seems to have some solid info on there.

cobler_smith's picture

Ive had tennis elbow for a year. Rest followed by flossing with voodoo band, doing the tyler twist and stretching helped get rid of all pain in the forearm. Im left with some tightness in the tendons and muscles close to the elbow, ART and myofascal release techniques really help with that. Do NOT use a compression sleve, it restricts and imobalalizes the joint. Do NOT train until its 100% i assure you from my own experience you will regret it. Remember tendons have poor blood supply and heel extremely slow, server tendonitis can take 12-24 months to heal. Also NSAIDS and ice are really only good for the early stages, after that they are pretty much pointless.

Blazinghost's picture

Thanks amigo gotta check these voodoo bands out.

giardap's picture

Don't
The problem is within the muscle so address it not train it
ART AND VOODOO FLOSS

Blazinghost's picture

Thank man... Gonna check out the voodoo bands I had never heard of them until now.

Jayzgainz's picture

I was going to put up my thoughts and what I do bit they've all been said already. I think the #1 thing that helped me was wearing a compression sleeve while training. Keep it warm, helps tremendously. I did use bpc-157 for several weeks and did have some relief. I also manipulated my excersices as much as I could to limit strain on the elbow. I think it has actually helped me to concentrate on using better form. Anyway, hope you feel better.

Also I've found using a floss band helps as well!

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Blazinghost's picture

Appreciate it man. I'm gonna try a sleeve and the bpc 157 first off. Prolly drop out the reverse grip curls maybe for good. See if I can't get things lined out and strengthened up. Thank you

Jayzgainz's picture

Yea unfortunately I had to stop doing zottman curls when mine got bad. We adapt and make up for it elsewhere.

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K.Bear210's picture

Lots of ultra light warms ups to get blood in, Heat, massage, drink Tumeric, fish oil, Arnica oil based muscle rub and as much time off, or alternate exercises that dont bother it as you can manage. I've had great success with that. Adding Naproxen and Asprin (I don't like advil) can totally eliminate it all together in conjunction with the above. Celebrex is good too, but I would be real careful as all are harsh on liver. Keep to 3-5 days only for the meds. then wait a week and repeat if not better.

Caeser's picture

NSAIDs should rarely, if ever be used. They reduce muscle hypertrophy & testosterone. Furthermore, they impair the healing process. NSAIDs should only be used if absolutely necessary, and for the shortest time possible.

The first part of your answer is solid. Once you got into the drugs, your simply masking the issue. And using meds that are counterproductive to muscle building. The issue is a weak tendon; to fully fix it (by strengthening it) takes a long time. Using meds to mask it will not fix the problem. And NSAIDs can possibly make everything worse.

Caeser's picture

Heat therapy is effective. Need to be consistent.
Scraping may assist.
MSM cream/lotion + Magnesium cream/lotion.
A.R.T.
Acupuncture.
I've had success with BPC157.

Blazinghost's picture

Will definitely try se of these. I appreciate the input my man.

Caeser's picture

Understand that tendons & ligaments take 200+ days to strengthen... so you have muscle that has strengthened before your tendon, resulting in tendoniitis. You have to be very patient with tendons & ligaments; they don't get significant blood flow the muscles do... this is why heat is effective as it will bring blood flow to that area. Lastly, HGH is effective for collegan synthesis.

Do not take NSAIDs, they are negatives for muscle/tendon repair/growth. They are also testosterone killers. They will slow your healing process. Natural anti-inflammatories = turmeric/curcumin, ginger, fish oil, bromelain (pineapple), arnica.

Blazinghost's picture

I agree I try to stay away from the anti inflammatory's. Other than my gear I don't like taking much of anything med wise. Thank for the solid advice

cry_havoc's picture

Change your form and seek out other exercises that hit the same target muscle. Stretching and ice help too.
When it hits me very hard I take DMSO cream and crush up ibuprofen and mix them together. Apply the paste to the area and wrap with bandage. Leave it on all day. The pain should be gone in 24-48 hours. There will be a slight rash and dry skin at the area of application. No big deal.

Caeser's picture

I respectfully disagree with NSAIDs and icing the area. Both are terrible for this specific scenario. A chronic tendon injury does not need ice; quite the opposite, heat should be used to flush blood to area for it to heal. NSAIDs are muscle synthesis & testosterone killers.

Blazinghost's picture

Thanks man!

House's picture

Tb-500 might help. Check it out and do some research.

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Blazinghost's picture

I've tried tb 500 (not in this exact circumstance). I didn't have any luck with it at the time. Could've been quality too I suppose. Thanks man

Dr.BroScience's picture

Rest will help of course. Ive has success using forearm bands and compression sleeves.
I have seen people swear by using copper sleeves or magnet sleeves on their elbows as well.

Always warm up preworkout with a decent amount of low intensity cardio in order to raise the heart rate and get a decent sweat going. A complete lightweight overall body warmup prior as well.
Forget the heavy weights and instead focus on the mind muscle connection. Experiment with different angles to see which ones work.
Also, I like to switch most of my exercises to strictly cables whenever possible. This will help with focusing on different angles and deep connection to the muscle being worked. Go slow and smooth and work on blood flushing as opposed to crushing. Remember there are no problems only solutions.
Good luck to you.

devils's picture

I feel your pain bro. So they say the best treatment for tendinitis is rest but ain't nobody got time for that right? I've had tendinitis once in my elbow as well. It was a little depressing feeling like I was limited to what I could and couldn't do in the gym. I tried the bands and wraps and stupid ass topical creams and none of them worked for me. I then had to talk to my trainers and doctor and they told me that the pain in my elbow wasn't being caused by the weight that I was trying to lift with, but rather the strain on my wrist from the weights in my hand. So I began using cable machines and applied a velcro cable strap attachment to wrapped around my forearm as close to my wrist as possible to perform all the lifts that limited me from normal lifting. After 2 or 3months of doing that the pain completely went away and I was back to lifting again all without missing a day in the gym. Don't know if this will help you but it did for me.

Good luck

Bearded_muscle's picture

The elbow braces help a bit. Usually it's certain angles that set it off for me when it's acting up and I avoid them as much as possible, hit what I can from angles that don't hurt and wait till it calms down. In my case it comes and goes. I ran some gh for maybe 6 months at 6ius and it felt worse while I was on but now that I've come off my elbow feels somewhat "healed". I know growth can increase inflammation around injury sites but it also accelerates healing...

Blazinghost's picture

Same thing here. Reverse curls every damn time. Always swear I won't do them anymore then find myself throwing them in to change things up then I suffer for a few weeks until it held up. Never used the sleeves bands and or braces so was checking to see what some of these more seasoned iron slingers say.

Bearded_muscle's picture

Haha yeah, I do the zotman curls sometimes, same shit.