posted Thu, 06/26/2014 - 20:10
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Maximize strength gains on cycle
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Hi
Any advice on what workout program I should use to maximize my strength gains on a cycle (or "blast" as it's called, since I don't plan on going off)?
Will be running 375mg test-e e6d, 20-40mg halotestin ed. 3-4 weeks.
I'm now on 5/3/1, but the workload and progression is slow. Should I do a different program or just increase the weights more?
Also, maybe I should increase the test dose?
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The idiots are out in force lately....
Darius-II don't understand. It's because of "blast and cruise"? What's wrong with that? Every user I know is cruising.
I maybe could understand people being against it in USA, since it's illegal. But it's not like that everywhere.
It has nothing to do with "legality". It has to do with your long term health. You will fry your system by this process and most likely incur heart and kidney issues in the foreseeable future. We're actually looking out for your health and trying to inform you. If no one gives a crap about that where you live, that's just sad. If you have no regard for your health and are not willing to learn and inform yourself, then you'll be experiencing many issues in the future. Best of luck on your decisions.
Darius-IThere's a bigger chance of destroying kidneys with vitamin supplements than steroids. I don't know where you get you info, but pct is worse than cruising, it crashes hormones, has more side effects and pct meds aren't the best thing for the body. Cruising though is just a low TRT dose of testosterone.
I wish this was true bro. Really do. But its not. Theres no vitamin supplement out there thats going to silently raise your blood pressure and destroy your kidneys, but theres that risk with all steroids. And don't even get me started on what orals can do to your liver and kidneys if your unlucky.
Darius-IProbably not blood pressure, but I don't think these bodybuilding vitamins with 10000% daily dose are particularly healthy.
Orals are no more dangerous than binge drinking few times a month.
Basically there are a lot of potentially worse and lethal things that people do than steroids. Alcohol, cigarets, red meat, extreme sports, speeding etc.
Wish that was true to bro but it's not, it's bro science that people on Internet forums like to say to feel better about using oral steroids, can't say I've ever had elevated liver enzymes from binge drinking a few times a month but I can tell you it happens to 90% of people who do a short run with orals. Can't say alcohol used responsibly and I say responsibly cause that's what we try to do with steroids, is gonna cause an enlarged heart or Left ventricular hypertrophy but I can tell you it's a very real possibility even when using gear in a "safe" way. I could go on forever, and I use steroids and I love to use them, but I'm not gonna sit here and act like this shit is healthy. Yes the media hypes it up to be a lot worse then it really is but it's still dangerous.
And your right the vitamin supplements are not healthy, but to say there worse for you then anabolic steroids shows you have a lot more reaearch to do.
Darius-IPeople usually drink, smoke and eat red meat for years upon years. No one, at least no one that's not dumb, uses oral steroids for more than a few weeks.
Thanks Mr. Wizard! I'm sure at 24 you do know everything, so here is where I take my leave. Best of luck in that rose colored world you live in.
Darius-IWhat has age have to do with knowledge? Knowledge is gained with research not aging.
I know 40 and 50 year olds that don't know chit, they don't know how to train, don't know how to make money. And I know 20 year olds that have made enough money to retire at 25. Just for example.
Tell me about it man. I really don't think all steroid forums attract this many idiots on a daily basis.
It mixes thing up I guess. ;-)
Burren247Go to a doctor kid. Have him check your levels and when the results come back, if they are around 300 like you say they'll put you on pharm grade Test and monitor your levels weekly. That's all your going to get from me. Good luck
Darius-INot in my country. There's is no such thing as TRT for "normal" men. Only for severe hypogonadism.
I'll have to find someone that's willing to write me a prescription for a price. But I haven't found anyone yet, I can't just call everyone and ask.
Wtf. Your trolling us aren't you. What a fucking joke today is. Please read the other 3 forum post just from today with idiots your age who also " don't plan on coming off". Those post will give you a good idea of how retarded that idea and statement was.
Darius-IMy natural testosterone is below 300, no point in going off. Nothing to lose.
God dammit. Idk why people my age are so stupid. People around this age have been getting more and more immature as time goes on. You have a lot to lose considering you have no idea what your doing. Think about tomorrow bro stop living in the moment. That's an 18 year old mindset, shouldn't be that of someone who's 24
Darius-ISo what should I do, live like a loser? Not worth it. Did you have below 300 test level at 23? If no, then you don't know anything. I wasted years training for nothing, got fat as phuck with little muscle gain. I've made more gains in 5 months on steroids than I had made in 5 years natty.
Then go see a doctor bro, if this is really the case then they need to find out why you have low test at such a young age, it could be be because of something very serious, or it's just generic. Either way they will put you on trt under a doctors supervision. There's to many variables you have to control and keep in check. There's way to many things that can go wrong on self prescribed trt . It's not worth risking your health over.
Darius-IIt's not like I decided one day to do steroids and did it. I researched many months, maybe even a year, before I started. I have all possible ai, serms, anti-prolactin, pct meds at hand if I need them. I do blood tests regularly.
About the doctor. Yeah probably I should or could go. But since I had it my whole life, it's probably not a lethal condition.
I hear ya man. I just cant cosign on something like this. I would come off, set up your blood test with your doctor right a that time, and do it the legal and safe way. It's better that way bro. Go get your gear at cvs, cheap, no possibility of it being bunk, underdosed, and all the potential sterility problems with gear made in some guys basement. Then you have him monitoring you.
AnonGot labs? Post em let's see it young gun.
Darius-IWhat is labs? Like lab blood test results? If so, I went from 290 ng/dL to 6000ng/dL testosterone. Everything else is in norm, liver markers are good so I can use halo, after 2 or 3 weeks I'll do it again and maybe continue for additional week or two.