posted Sat, 05/19/2018 - 08:06
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Hi guys i want to bulk up to 200lbs/100kg more or less (no aas involved here). Im having trouble preparing the diet, because different resources give me very different advice.
According to calculator.net i need 4016cal a day.
According to myfitnesspal i need 3390cal a day.
Im a bit of a hard gainer and myfitnesspal advice looks like
Bullcrap. Can someone give me a bit of spoonfeeding here? Or recommend an alternative website or something?
Thanks
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So all this time i thought i was eating 3500 calories now I learned how to properly use this app and it results ive been eating a mouth on a twig diet of only 2000-2400 calories a day!
Well im gonna keep the mouth on a twig diet for the time being so i get ripped for summer my bf is too high at 19%.
After that im gonna bulk properly now that i know how to properly measure it. This is gonna be a game changer i get now why my previous cycles went to the drain. With this app i wont even need aas for the time being!
Thanks guys ill start with around 3500 and see how it goes.
Easy math I utilize... the weight you want to be, you eat that amount in grams of protein = you wanna be 200lbs. you eat 200 grams of protein...
Then fill in the rest accordingly...carbs & fat ratio...
Voila!...Eazy Peazy...
Gotta be quality though...you want quality gains it requires quality kcals.
AnonSomething that has worked well for me the past is multiplying your current lean body mass by certain percentages for carbs, proteins, and fat. For example, on the highest my bulking dies have gone in the past, I’ve taken my weight at the time and multiplied it by 2.0 for carbs, 1.2-1.4 for protein, and 0.3-0.5 for fat. This will give you a starting point to work with as far as where your diet should reach towards the end. The values you obtain will be total grams of macronutrients you should work towards eating each day (at the peak of your diet). Again, this method has worked for me in the past, but no one’s individual formula is perfect, and I can attest that even mine still needs some adjusting. But, that’s just all part of the learning process and the ability to truly understand why works best for YOUR body. So please take my suggestion as a grain of salt.
However, as addressed by GrowMore, this isn’t something I’d start out at. Say you acquire your baseline through the method Sam I Am explained, and then you do the math that I described to you. If there’s a large difference in values, I would add in the macronutrients progressively every few weeks. For example, you acquire your baseline then do the math with the numbers I gave you, and come to find out, the values are 1,000 calories more than what you currently eat. Well, add 500 calories of that at a time, preferably (in my opinion) in the form of carbs. I would begin this diet by changing your baseline calorie intake to what the protein and fat daily macronutrient values are from the calculations I gave you, and then slowly add in the extra carbohydrates. Each time your body reaches a plateau where you are no longer gaining quality mass after two weeks, implement the additional calories by adding more carbs and run that for another couple of weeks until you plateau again. Then, repeat this addition of carbs until you meet your max macronutrient values.
Referring back to my original statement, there are many bulking diets around for you to reference. I don’t want to say that some are better than others because this is entirely subjective to an individual’s body, goals, training methods, etc. This is just a formula that has worked for me in the past, but even today, I am running a different diet because I’m continuously learning what my body responds best to. Another great resource of information is a member here titled Makwa. Use the search bar and just search for “makwa diet,” and I’m sure you’ll find all sorts of forum topics. Best of luck to you and I hope this has helped in some way.
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My Fitness Pal is a great app. Track everything you eat for a week normally. Once you’ve done this see what your daily calories are. This is your baseline. Then add 500 calories a day. You should add 1/2 lb a week roughly. 1000 a day you should gain 1 lb a week . Get 1 gram of protein per lb of bodyweight. If you were on hormones or dieting I would recommend more. Your not so that should suffice. Goodluck
basskiller89X2 solid advice
3390 sounds reasonable, that would be a few hundreds over maintenance I would imagine depending on your job.
4,016 would be better however when you start to stop seeing results where would you go? 4,500?
I agree with sam, I would start 500 calories over maintenance and add 500 when you feel the gains are stalling. It'll also help your stomach cope with the extra calories.
I agree. I sometimes forget my age. I can maintain 235 on only 2200 calories with 230 grams of protein off cycle. But I’m 54 so my metabolism is probably slower. The key when bulking is to gain but not get to sloppy. I could easily go to 275 but my frame doesn’t support that. Anything over 238 and I don’t look like a bodybuilder. My strength however is tremendously different when I’m over 235.