injectable L-Carnitine (cardispan)???
i dont know where exactly this post belongs so im tossing it in "suppliments" ... i hope there are no objections to that....
anyone ever heard of or used a product called CARDISPAN? or an injectale l-carnitine of another brand?
a buddy of mine was going on and on the other day about a sub-Q injectable L-Carnitine he got for a pre-contest shred. he used it two weeks pre contest and it literally melted any fat in his abdominal problem areas. he used it in several insulin pin injections all over his stomach and said he could actually feel fat melting away. it was quite uncomfortable he said and there was some swelling the next day, but ill be damned if he didnt lose a noticeable amount of fat in less time than ive ever seen it done...
im sure everyone knows about the positive effects of oral L-carnitine not just as a fat oxidizer but in many other ways as well. so i was wondering if anyone out there has any recent experience with injectable forms of L-Carnitine. ive done some searching on some other boards and all i seem to find is old threads, nothing recent. ive read about more cutting and precontest cycles than ur average joe and yet, you never seem to hear about injectable l-carnitine.. which kinda makes me think, does anyone use this stuff anymore?
i have no opinions on it either way as of yet... and id really love some feedback if anyone out there does?
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I got a box from a street source last year. I used it and it burned like hell but it really worked good as u described above about your friend pre contest. I used it and i can feel that it was working. I had some runs and went to the bathroom a lot on it. Its Cardispan by Grossman.
i wound up trying myself... Grossman, just like you mentioned. same results, a burning tingeling feeling for about 15 min at the injection site.... from what i understand it hurts more the more fat is in an area so osme people have it much worse... it works best when combined with intense cardio and carb fasting... i saw much greater results than my buddy did by adjusting how i used it... what i did was a small protein based breakfast followed by injecting 1gram spread over several locations.. then i did 1 hour of cardio with my abdominal area wrapped tightly in compression cloth (ace bandages). no carbs before and for a few hours after... results were fantastic but i dont think id bother to do it again as you can get great results from using an oral version and maintaining a good cardio regime.
southernmuscle615yea if you have a good cardio regimen than it might work ok...the thing is this though...you have to have your insulin spiked to force the carnitine into your cells. thats were it gets tricky...you have to carb up every time before you inject to insure your pushing the carntine into your cells, the fact that you have to eat so much carbs in a day for me almost overwhems the affects of the carnitins fat burning purpose, but it could still be good IF you have a solid cardio regimen OR you do it the cadillac method with inj. insulin (no carbs)
synthetine is made by synthetek , which is a very trusted company, i used that, and i pinned sub q into my abdomen and glutes bilateral...so like this- wake up eat 75-100 g high GI carbs (wait 10 min) eat 2nd serving of med GI carbs 75g..stop eating and inject intra meal bilaterlly 1 ml into abs (which is 2 ml) finish the rest of your second serving of carbs... you can slowely eat about 30 grams of protein wait 35-45 min inject bilaterlly 1 ml into glutes (2ml) so thats almost 1 g carnitine total...do this process again later in the day..but if you can inject 2 G carnitine a day for 4 days straight you will have saturated your cells and then you can inject the carnitine ocassionally each day whenever your having carbs (like once a day or so) then you have to reload the next month and do the above process again for 4 days...or you can just take it with insulin and end of story..thats about it
bro i really appreciate all the info. it seems like not many people have experimented with this stuff at all but ive always been a big fan of carnitine supplimentation for fat loss... im gonna try the cardispan i have but im def gonna look into the synthetine you mentioned.. was it an eroids source you got it from of somewhere else? and again, thanks so much man..
southernmuscle615i am currently doing the injectable l carnitinte almost finished the whole bottle now...first off, the only thing i can say is try it out because everyone is different..I used synthetine which is a good brand and they dilute with water so it doesnt burn as much...however, each ml is only 200mg...and you need to be taking in 2 grams a day for 4-6 days to saturate your cells..so if you do the math, thats a lot of pinning, im not sure if you know the protocals or not,
but from my personal experience, it may have helped me SOME, and thats it...i never really saw fat shredding off me, it may however work better if you add some clen or yohimbe or something, but by itself, there was minimal change, but if you use it with insulin, then it may be worth your while
i got cardispan but i havent tried it yet. ive heard mixed reviews. mostly that it works well when combined with a really good cardio routine. i do 90 min a day currently so im assuming that should be sufficient.. if you dont mind me asking, are you pinning sub-q or IM? and ive never heard of synthetine, have you used it before?
nobody???? all you experimental bastards out there and not one has tried anything like this.... i guess im gonna have to... ill post results
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