posted Fri, 09/02/2016 - 16:40
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Would adding tbol to a test prop/tren ace cycle do any benefit?
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I got my hands on some tbol recently.. Never have before ran it.. I'm dosing the prop 75mg/Ed and the tren 75mg/Ed.. Would I see any added benefits to adding tbol 50mg a day to this cycle? Looking to add some lean muscle. Stats right now are about 9-10%bf 200lbs 6'1.
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If you add Tbol I believe it would definitely add some benefit. Tren ace will definitely be doing most of the work but I'm a firm believer that if you add it yes it wil help with strength and size but I believe that if you run the cycle for let's say 10 weeks that if you run the Tbol 2 weeks longer after you drop the tren it'll help keep the gains you made more permanent
For example if you ran a cycle like this
Test p 350 1-8
Tren a 350 1-8
Then drop tren but continue
Tbol50mg 2-10
Test prop 200-300 9-10
Your stats seem like you must be in good shape but I'd need more info, age, number of years working out, etc
This is just my opinion based off research that Iv done for myself but just my opinion
This is actually the exact cycle I will be running but for 12 weeks and I'll be using NPP instead of tren
I am very sorry, I did ask for more stats this was just a statement of my opinion based on my own cycle, not a recommendation for you to do it this way. I'm sorry if it came off the wrong way. I'm terrible at forums, I always make a mistake. I'm sorry
I just sent you a friend request (FR).
No worries bro. I don't want you to just fade away and not contribute at forums. Before you give any recommendations that have cycle information in them, just check to see if the OP is "big" enough to get any value from anabolics. If not, then simply don't propose a cycle.
Bro, as Rusty said below, didn't we go through this already a week or two ago regarding stats? I know you are trying to help, but please don't just serve up cycle advice if you don't know anything about the OP (e.g. stats).
RustyhookerOP looking for lean mass. Hard knocks ....lol.
I'm so bad at this. I'm sorry. Everything else on this site for years im a + guy. Talking to people, good chats, pics, and solid relationships. I'm just getting the vibe I'm terrible at forums. Im so sorry, can you delete my comment please
Bro, relax man. You're not bad at this. Not at all. Don't stop contributing. Just check the OP's stats is all. If the guy is a 95 lb. weakling, then anabolics aren't going to help and there's no sense in laying out a cycle for him.
+ 2 for getting involved. We need more participation at forums.
RustyhookerDo you see stats or priors?
2 weeks of tbol past acetate? Please explain?
Yea im sorry about that. I asked for more stats too and just mentioned im on a similar cycle.
But my theory based on my experience is that taper is key. Using tren, such a strong compound that literally builds muscle while burning fat is being used (or any compound in general) once you drop it plain pct will not sustain those gains you made. I feel (in my experience and my complete opinion) that when dropping that main compound that is doing most of the work you should then lower your test a bit to around 250-350 range (depending on the person) and then letting a compound like perferably anavar and even Tbol being run for 2 weeks past even 3wks if you have that time will help with recovery, protein synthesis, and just in general strength gains and endurance to work out more n push through will help make those "tren" gains or let's say "EQ" gains more permanent when completely coming off and getting into pct. it's basically a taper but the oral like anavar or Tbol i believe helps as well, tighten you up, the pumps, and even the mental aspect of knowing youre on something make you want to workout harder and more often.
I hope you understand some of what I tried to dump out from my brain. Lol
RustyhookerExcellent!
8 weeks on tren needs a longer and more proactive pct. Hitting hcg and 6 weeks pct straightened me out. That shutdown from tren had me a total wreck at week 4. Not to mention running caber 2 weeks into pct. I learned the hard way. Carlos Danger helped get me on track
Npp didn't shut me down like tren. Remember that when you switch. I'm also wondering why OP is running a typical cutter chem. Hmmmm....
How old are you? Fill in your stats please!
Simple matter of fact answer is if you can't gain on prop and tren then you suck anyway. Save the tbol
This is true.. But hey if you can get some added strength in from it I don't see why not.. I've read tbols profile and understand its chemically similar to dbol.. Without as much water retention. Almost like NPP. But yeah I understand where you're coming from.
Dang bro. Here I am trying to be "nicer" but that sounds like the old me. LOL
Hahahaha I'm nice G:) It's true tho. If someone can't grow on Tren then Houston we got problems. I'm positive homie knew I was generalizing and not personally referring to him sucking but rather any anonymous random person would suck.
RustyhookerTough love bro. Too many sugar coat this life and the OP comes back broken.
Hey bro,
Please fill in your stats in your profile as well. How old are you bro?
First, please take your face out of your profile photo. Please remember that this the the world's best website to get information on where to buy "illegal" anabolic steroids and there is no sense in just handing your picture out to anyone involved in law enforcement that may just happen to be logged on here.
Second, how long is the cycle you are on? What week are you in? Is it Tren A you are running? What are your plans for post cycle therapy (PCT)? How many cycles have you done before? What are your goals in terms of lbs. of muscle mass for the cycle?
Tren is not a good compound to run early on in your steroid career and is also not the best mass building compound either. And, while tbol is a great chemical, if you don't have a lot of cycle experience, running more than one injectable, and then stacking an oral like tbol on top of it is not recommended. If you start experiencing any negative side effects you will not know what is causing what.
Please read through the forums and the "stickies." I think you need to do a little more research on steroid cycles before doing anything else. Where did you get the idea for the cycle you are on? How long have you been training bro? What's your diet like?
Please check out the following link:
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/answer-these-que....
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The cycle is 12-14 weeks long.. Right now I'm on week 7 and will probably continue it for 4 more weeks. It is tren ace that I'm on.. And yeah I understand I can look good and shredded with a test prop and tren cycle only but I've hit sort of a strength plateau. My bench has been stuck around 225x12 305x6.. So was curious as to if these would help maybe break through that plateau but realize there are other options as well.. Switching up routine, adding some more carbs in, etc.. This is my 4th complete cycle.. First cycle was anavar only cycle. Second cycle was test prop only at 500mg/week. Third was test prop/tren ace and decided to throw in winny at the end for a hardener... and this time around I've realized tren is basically going to give you what any other steroid will give you and more so wondering if it's even worth including anything else in a cycle. I've been training for around 8 years now. My diet consists of carb cycling 250/200/150/100/50 repeat. This seems to work best for me. I came into this cycle about 195 lbs 15%bf and am now at about 200 9%bf so it's been more of a recomp cycle of anything. I'm keeping calories around 2800 a day. My body seems to respond best to this and I find I can lose fat while gaining muscle mass at this rate. I'm also taking Adex .25 a day to keep any gyno and water bloating from the test at bay, have caber on hand for any prolactin issues but has never been an issue before and the Adex is mainly for water retention. Have ran test at higher dosages and don't seem to get any symptoms of gyno. I'm looking to add a bit more strength in the next 4-6 weeks as well as about 5-6 more lbs of lean muscle of possible.
Bro, "recomps" are almost never possible in real life. The Test P / Tren A is the standard cut stack short the Mast P and a 2800 cal diet on the face of it isn't much to support muscle mass gains. So, I don't doubt that your body fat is indeed dropping but I am wondering about the 5 lb. gain. Despite the adex, some of that is no doubt water weight. Take a look at this link. It's a really good summary of the issue.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/spinning-your-wheels
I personally think adding another 500-1000 calories (split 1/2 & 1/2 between carbs and protein) will serve you a lot better than adding another compound. 2800 is what I eat for maintenance and I weigh less than you.
^^^^its amazing how few people there are that don't understand what you just said. Food food food.
So there are a lot of people that do? Haha just busting ur balls man I know what u meant. But yea, it's really crazy to me. People are so fast to add another compound and risk health issues when all they need is to eat like they're on cycle and not like me off gear trying to maintain 190lbs
Lol yeah I guess I twisted my shit up there:) been lollipoppin ladies all day and I smoke when I'm workin haha
Thanks bro. This is an excellent response. I know this may seem unimportant to you but before I comment further I do need to know your age bro. And, please, again, fill in your stats in your profile. Thanks bro.
My age is 27.. Yes I have cycled before I was 25 because I was in the fitness modeling industry and felt the need to keep up with competition. Was it the smartest choice? Probably not, but what's done is done.
AnonYou have been asked more than once to fill in your stats, it is important, so please take a moment now and fill those in for us, Thanks
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkYeah just on my phone and trying to figure out how to.. I've literally gave you guys all the info on my stats but ill fill it in if that's standard no worries.. Might have to wait till I get home. Thanks.
Go to your profile and tap "edit stats" fill them in at tap save I only responded above because u gave ur stats in ur response and I gave u no advice on gear. Per the rules you gotta get those in there as soon as u can. U can do it on ur phone.
And get ur face outta ur pics man. Use ur head, buddy.